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Old 06-24-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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An interesting poli sci article/theory on why the two political parties in the U.S. are becoming more extreme and partisan compared to the 50's and 60's. The conclusion of the article states:

Partisan Sorting and Why it Matters | IVN.us

It seems to be that the Republican party is definitely becoming more and more extreme since the 90's and I just wonder how long it will take before a major reorganization will change the party.
Have you not seen all the former GOP politicians that are supporting and/or donating to democrats, against conservative Republican candidates in the general elections, and all the democrats supporting and/or donating to establishment RINO Republican incumbents in the primary elections?

The extremists, the party purists, if you will, in the GOP are the liberal, RINOs, not the conservatives. You don't see conservative Republicans supporting Democrats in the general elections.
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Lol... Keep on dreaming of that Revolution...

Has it occurred to you that people KNOW what the Tea Party is, that THAT is why they are rejecting it? And the more your kind spout off about the "true beliefs of the Tea Party," the more people will move away from it.

Is the next stage of the "Revolution" going to be violence? Because that will really help your cause...



Yes, restoring the US Constitution, is rather extreme in this day & age, of Constitutional destruction.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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It seems to be that the Republican party is definitely becoming more and more extreme since the 90's and I just wonder how long it will take before a major reorganization will change the party.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue". -Barry Goldwater
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue". -Barry Goldwater
Oh, the irony. I just spit water all over my phone.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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Yes, restoring the US Constitution, is rather extreme in this day & age, of Constitutional destruction.
Are you deliberately trying to prove your opponents' point? Nah, why would you do that. It's more likely that you're not aware of what you're doing.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:45 PM
 
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As I keep saying before, there will come a time, pretty soon too, when the GOP will confine itself to the most racist, backwards, and bigoted corners of the Old Confederacy
WRONG.

I do find it so very interesting that posters who give themselves names like this, or "think for myself" or similar, actually could not be more inappropriately named.

My much more realistic opinion is that long before the republican party implodes, it will excise the corporate wing and merge with the tea party to form a true conservative party that is in alignment with its origins. A GOP that supports small government, liberal social values, is anti-illegal immigration and amnesty, is pro-deportation, against questionable foreign entanglements, desires the rule of law, etc., will successfully capture the vast middle of the country.

Were that to happen, the democraps would panic, and the corporate interests might even try to initiate a coup/martial law, nothing would shock me at this point. The chamber of commerce and corporate w-ores would kill their own children if it meant saving a few dollars and retaining power, even if the country collapsed.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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The main thing driving Republican extremism and moves for "purity" is the gerrymandered districts. Over the last 10-20 years Republicans in the state legislatures have used computers to craft long snaking districts which geographically make no sense at all but which deliver districts which are 70%,80%, or even some times 90% Republicans. With this gerrymandering if the Republicans only get 50% of the total vote they will get 2/3rds of the seats but the downside, besides the fact that it subverts democracy itself, is that since the general election is now meaningless in gerrymandered districts (we all know which party will win in an 80-20 district) so the only contest is the primary and people win primary contests by being as extreme as possible.

Get ride of gerrymandering and you'll end the self destructive extremism of the Republican Party as every politician in the party suddenly becomes more moderate in order to reflect the moderation of their new ungerrymandered home district.
...and on cue, the other poster I referred to above joins the thread

Tell us bright one, how this action has been historically exclusive to republicans, and is anathema to democraps. Good luck there
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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^^^Never fear. I'm sure the Democrats will divide as well. There is a strong 'social liberal but fiscal conservative' wing that has found it difficult to belong to either party but which sticks by the Democrats because the GOP is racing farther to the right on social issues.
This is exactly the inevitable future; the vast middle, who knows that obama is shyte and a liar, that the invasion of illegals across the border is destructive and totally negative for our society, will not remain silent indefinitely.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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This is why the Repubs are completely uncooperative and totally disinterested in governance. They'll wait in the wings and hope for a collapse when shaken folks might return to their party.

It's beyond shameful, frankly treasonous. A massive team of Russian/foreign spies couldn't do more damage to our country than elected Republicans.
It would take the combined forces of the russians, chinese and cubans to equal the destructive force of obama, the patent liar and inviter of every central/south american deadbeat looking for a hand-out from the hated gringo.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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The Tea Party is the future of nothing. Their platform is ignorance, anger, and hypocrisy. Their supporters are crusty, old, angry people who hate change or anyone who is different. These are the Faux News clowns - the median age of the people who watch that joke station is retirement age - and these are the only ones who can possibly take the Tea Party seriously. Everyone else sees them for the fraud they are - a corporate-funded AstroTurf movement intent on doing serious damage to this nation and rolling back all progress on social issues that we've made in the past 100+ years.

As long as the GOP keeps listening to the Tea Party stooges, they will keep losing elections, which is fine by me. Maybe, someday, they'll realize that lunatics don't deserve national representation, but even then, the Tea Party will linger on as some sort of radical 3rd party in the backwoods of the Old Confederacy.
ZZZzzzzzzzzzz.... zero facts and less debating ability. Do you get paid by the sentence as you seem wholly driven to use every lame soundbite/talking point right out of the MSNBC/rachel maddow handbook?

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