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Actually, I'm guessing English and Dutch people might be more aware of the origin. Although Dutch people might not be familiar with the idiom itself.
Yes I'm familiar with that saying being used over here...not in Holland. We just call it split checks not going Dutch but that sounds like the jokes that are going around.
In Holland we have cookies called Joden Koeken and translated it is called "Jew Cookies", Joden Vet and translated it would be something like Jew grease" and both are candy/cooky kind of stuff.
Than we have Neger zoenen which translated would be "negro kisses" and I wonder if that would be an issue over here but it exist for at least 50 years and nobody is making an issue of it but probably soon it will be an issue.
We have a December children's celebration called Sinterklaas en Zwarte Piet. The last 2 words translated would be "black Piet" and all of a sudden after more than 100 years or something like that black Piet is now a racist thing to have while it was never an issue.
Black Piet was black because of the dirt from the chimney he is climbing down to pick up sugar and water/milk and a carrot for Sinterklaas his white horse (probably sooner than later the "white horse will no longer be allowed) and black Piet face got black from that....almost all kids love this celebration and no issues until last year when all of a sudden a lady needed attention and now is trying to boycott what was for a long time the common thing in December.
Schools are banning Christmas trees over there due to muslims making complaints and also the Holocaust is no longer discussed in histroy class to avoid objections from muslims.
What is the world becoming?
But when it is good for the goose it is good for the gander and not just for left wingers it is ok and not for any one else!
Wow that is a first time...I'm Dutch and we always saw that as a joke that we have like we have over there Belgium kind of jokes and jokes about Dutch people not wasting any money which can be seen as a compliment.
It's from the period when England and Holland were on unfriendly terms. There are a bunch of terms from that time based around the theme of Dutch being backwards, untrue, uncivilized. Going Dutch, Dutch auctions (an auction that starts high), Dutch metal (imitation gold), Double Dutch (gibberish), Dutch courage (courage gained by drinking), etc.
Of course, England has never oppressed Holland in the way that, say, European colonial powers have oppressed various minorities, so these terms don't have the same kind of power as more familiar racial slurs.
Talk about a stretch in an effort to smear the First Lady!
all it means is someone ripped you off, derived from the fact that most gypsies were swindlers. But being a gypsy was a way of life. You could be any nationality and be a gypsy, not just Romani people.
Though many Romani are offended by the use of the word. I just have not met one
all it means is someone ripped you off, derived from the fact that most gypsies were swindlers. But being a gypsy was a way of life. You could be any nationality and be a gypsy, not just Romani people.
Though many Romani are offended by the use of the word. I just have not met one
Roma children's bedtime stories say it's OK to steal. They were given permission by Jesus himself.
Canada slammed its doors shut to Gypsy immigration. Too many shoplifting rings, too many phony roofing and repaving companies.
Its not ok, but you also dont rule other people's lives.
No I don't rule anyone's life but my own and frankly I don't care what people of color call each other......just pointing out how hypocritical it is for blacks to call each other that, especially in today's ultra PC world because not only is it apparently socially acceptable, it actually celebrated in the music and media these days.
Not at all, my argument is that intent does matter, but once you learn the origins you stop doing it.
Your argument seemed to be that the women was purposefully using a racial slur.
I think that's exactly right, the intent is what matters.
When I was a kid growing up in the 1950s we used LOTS of words that today would be considered racist.
We just didn't know they were, and they had little meaning to us; they were just expressions.
"You gypped me!" says one kid to another kid.
"You're an Indian-giver!" says another.
"He jewed me down"; an expression used by older kids.
At the corner store there were penny candies in the shape of babies. The candies were black and we called them 'ni**er babies, as in 'gimme three ni**er babies and two jawbreakers'.
As I grew a little older (but still bought penny candy!) I stopped using that term and substituted the word 'black'. I had somehow learned that I should not use the former term.
As for the word 'gypped', I found out it's origin when I was an older teen. Only because I loved to read and probably read it in a book somewhere.
The big question when dating, of course, was 'are you going Dutch?' All it meant was that each person would pay for their own meal and/or entertainment.
No harm no foul. like Polish vs polish the 'g' was not capitalized.
When history is rewritten, as per MO's request, that line will be deleted.
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) and black Piet face got black from that....almost all kids love this celebration and no issues until last year when all of a sudden a lady needed attention and now is trying to boycott what was for a long time the common thing in December.
