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The WHY needs to be addressed. Why does anyone commit murder? Why does anyone commit suicide? Those are the most important questions. The mentality behind both needs to be addressed.
The WHY needs to be addressed. Why does anyone commit murder? Why does anyone commit suicide? Those are the most important questions. The mentality behind both needs to be addressed.
People murder for reasons of passion and/or gain. Those two things pretty much covers that. Minus the odd sociopath who just has no conscience about it. Suicides are a lot more varied in reasons, buy there's, usually, some type of hopelessness behind it. Something the person feels just can't be dealt with, so, they just decide to check out and see what's next.
Untreated or undiagnosed depression is a big factor in suicides. Even people who., seemingly, have everything to live for, fall victim to it. Many cases involve financial devastation, via divorce, this current economy hasn't helped, getting fired., alcohol and drug abuse and a combination of all of these, lead people to just snap, and end it all.
More often than not, the reasons agent known till the deed is done, or the person is just ignored or told by others to just tuck up and get over it. Lack of empathy and compassion, and zero support. Yes, suicides are a complicated issue. Far to often, pleas for help are ignored.
People murder for reasons of passion and/or gain. Those two things pretty much covers that. Minus the odd sociopath who just has no conscience about it. Suicides are a lot more varied in reasons, buy there's, usually, some type of hopelessness behind it. Something the person feels just can't be dealt with, so, they just decide to check out and see what's next.
Untreated or undiagnosed depression is a big factor in suicides. Even people who., seemingly, have everything to live for, fall victim to it. Many cases involve financial devastation, via divorce, this current economy hasn't helped, getting fired., alcohol and drug abuse and a combination of all of these, lead people to just snap, and end it all.
More often than not, the reasons agent known till the deed is done, or the person is just ignored or told by others to just tuck up and get over it. Lack of empathy and compassion, and zero support. Yes, suicides are a complicated issue. Far to often, pleas for help are ignored.
About 80% of non-suicide gun deaths is gang or drug related. Has nothing to do with passion. "Crime of passion" and murder are to things that generally are not fitted together.
Suicide is a mental health issue, but for some reason (completely no bias or agenda, honest!) suicide gun deaths get lumped into a lot of the "gun violence" statistics (LOOKING AT YOU CDC!!!).
People murder for reasons of passion and/or gain. Those two things pretty much covers that. Minus the odd sociopath who just has no conscience about it. Suicides are a lot more varied in reasons, buy there's, usually, some type of hopelessness behind it. Something the person feels just can't be dealt with, so, they just decide to check out and see what's next.
Untreated or undiagnosed depression is a big factor in suicides. Even people who., seemingly, have everything to live for, fall victim to it. Many cases involve financial devastation, via divorce, this current economy hasn't helped, getting fired., alcohol and drug abuse and a combination of all of these, lead people to just snap, and end it all.
More often than not, the reasons agent known till the deed is done, or the person is just ignored or told by others to just tuck up and get over it. Lack of empathy and compassion, and zero support. Yes, suicides are a complicated issue. Far to often, pleas for help are ignored.
Important things that need to be looked at. Alot of the murders committed are between people who know each other, rival gangs, or "someone looked at me the wrong way". Anger, mentality of vengeance, hatred(both of one's self and of everyone else too), and paranoia in some cases. Teenagers getting murdered over shoes is an example of murder for gain. One has to think "what goes on in a person's head to make then think killing someone is the way to get something they way?". But then, this has happened all through history. If it is the person on the street doing it to another individual, it is murder and recorded as a crime. If done as a colonization mission, well, it's a conquest.
One thing I've considered with suicide. This is a pathology involving a person not being able to deal with controlling a situation. Not that much different from self-mutilation and eating disorders. And it is interesting you bring up alcohol abuse. It would be interested to line up which states have the highest rates of alcoholism, and then look at the suicide rates. Lithuania and Russia have among the highest suicide rates in the world. Alcoholism is also rampant in those areas. As to why people turn to alcohol as a means of escaping problems, well, there are a variety of reasons to consider. You brought up pleas of help being ignored. In many cases, it is expect for a man to just "put up with it" and don't complain.
I feel like asking the why is important in cases like this. Finding out WHO is easy. We all know WHO is doing what. Knowing WHY is important in this case.
About 80% of non-suicide gun deaths is gang or drug related. Has nothing to do with passion. "Crime of passion" and murder are to things that generally are not fitted together.
Suicide is a mental health issue, but for some reason (completely no bias or agenda, honest!) suicide gun deaths get lumped into a lot of the "gun violence" statistics (LOOKING AT YOU CDC!!!).
I think this was the think that was meant by "passion". Alot of murders are gang related and drug related. There are also murders taking place because "so and so said something that angered me" or other argument-related problems. Many murders do take place that way.
I would agree with you about suicide being a mental health issues. There is more than one way to commit suicide. Hanging, poison, jumping off of buildings, people driving their cars off of roads, drowning, all kinds of ways. People who can't deal with their problems properly, who feel that all is lost.
About 80% of non-suicide gun deaths is gang or drug related. Has nothing to do with passion. "Crime of passion" and murder are to things that generally are not fitted together.
Suicide is a mental health issue, but for some reason (completely no bias or agenda, honest!) suicide gun deaths get lumped into a lot of the "gun violence" statistics (LOOKING AT YOU CDC!!!).
Well, passion covers a lot more than intimate relationships. Gangs hate each other. Hatred is a passion. They kill each other for rvenve motivated reasons as well. Revenge is a passion. They kill over drug turf, which is motivated by greed. Greed is a passion. That's where I was going with that. Not ,specifically, a jilted lover type situation.
I think this was the think that was meant by "passion". Alot of murders are gang related and drug related. There are also murders taking place because "so and so said something that angered me" or other argument-related problems. Many murders do take place that way.
I would agree with you about suicide being a mental health issues. There is more than one way to commit suicide. Hanging, poison, jumping off of buildings, people driving their cars off of roads, drowning, all kinds of ways. People who can't deal with their problems properly, who feel that all is lost.
IIRC we were talking about gun violence and deaths. 80% of those non-suicide deaths linked to guns occur due to gang or drug involvement. That leaves mechanical failures, user error, hunting accidents, etc along with things like 3rd degree murder to share the last 20%. While not statistically irrelevant, it is not something to really think of as a main cause.
Well, passion covers a lot more than intimate relationships. Gangs hate each other. Hatred is a passion. They kill each other for rvenve motivated reasons as well. Revenge is a passion. They kill over drug turf, which is motivated by greed. Greed is a passion. That's where I was going with that. Not ,specifically, a jilted lover type situation.
Wiki definition: A crime of passion, or crime passionnel, in popular usage, refers to a violent crime, especially murder, in which the perpetrator commits the act against someone because of sudden strong impulse such as sudden rage rather than as a premeditated crime
Gangs going to off one another or drug robberies aren't crimes of passion. Some guy coming home to find his wife banging his best friend and ending up with lead poisoning as a result would be considered a crime of passion.
Gun violence is higher among people who have higher rates of violence in general. Gun control laws do nothing to solve this. That should be plainly obvious given that many cities with strict gun laws are practically war zones. In Washington D.C. the gun crimes were some of the worst in the country for a long time. The violent crime rate only started to decline when the demographics of the city changed.
Gun violence is higher among people who have higher rates of violence in general. Gun control laws do nothing to solve this. That should be plainly obvious given that many cities with strict gun laws are practically war zones. In Washington D.C. the gun crimes were some of the worst in the country for a long time. The violent crime rate only started to decline when the demographics of the city changed.
Demographics gets discussed ad nauseam. I don't go for this "it is what it is" mentality. I have the mentality of a problem solver. As for persons with higher rates of violence, here is the question. Which segment of that particular demographic has the most violence? What is the mentality of the persons who are committing such violence? What are the solutions to individuals who insist on committing murder?
You see, we all know "WHO" is committing murder. It gets discussed over and over, and often because many persons have anger and resentment towards said ethnicity. No one really gets around to trying to WHY the violence is being committed? What goes on in a person's head to make them believe violence is the way to solve problems?
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