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Old 07-01-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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With that said, even the climate blogger's data doesn't change much, the trend still shows an increasing temperature over a period of time.
Only if you pick a period of time when that is true. There are hundreds and hundreds of other periods that show cooling. So, for example, the earth has cooled since 1300 AD.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The Ministry of Truth strikes again!

NOAA Reinstates July 1936 As The Hottest Month On Record | Nwo Report


What possible reason could there be to change past recorded temperatures than to deceive the gullible?
Only the gullible assume science is static. The change doesn't change the fact that the temperature has been trending upward.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Only if you pick a period of time when that is true. There are hundreds and hundreds of other periods that show cooling. So, for example, the earth has cooled since 1300 AD.
And this is in relation to what? If you are trying to say the earth was warmer during the medieval period, that would be incorrect.
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Yes. You don't think there are weather stations covering every square centimeter of the earth, do you?
You don't think there were concrete or asphalt roads and parking lots covering Millions of square miles on Earth 400 years ago, do you?

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You didn't read the article, this is clear.
You don't understand black-body radiation, this is clear.


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Only the gullible assume science is static. The change doesn't change the fact that the temperature has been trending upward.
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The little ice age was not by any stretch of the imagination a true ice age....It was only 1.3 degrees C cooler than today...It was not global...At most there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during that period.
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Ah Another one who doesn't understand that inter-glacial periods involve up to 12 thousand years, and cant comprehend that we're looking at large temperature changes in the last few decades.....
Got you.

Hahahaha I own you...




Wow....0.2°C.....The Sky Is Falling.....

Yes, for you non-science people that is Two Tenths of a degree Centigrade/Celsius

Your inability to understand 4th Grade Math does not enhance your credibility or your claims that you understand Science



The NOAA refutes all of your claims.

Let's examine Reality & Truth & Science.....



Your teeny tiny 0.2°C temperature pales in comparison to the Average Global Temperature of the previous Inter-Glacial Period.



The Reality is that this is the coldest Inter-Glacial Period in known history, and that the Average Global Temperature will need to increase 6.2°F to lose that honor....

....in which case this would be the 2nd coldest Inter-Glacial Period in known history.

Educating AGW nutters one brain cell at a time....


Mircea
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You don't think there were concrete or asphalt roads and parking lots covering Millions of square miles on Earth 400 years ago, do you?



You don't understand black-body radiation, this is clear.








Got you.

Hahahaha I own you...




Wow....0.2°C.....The Sky Is Falling.....

Yes, for you non-science people that is Two Tenths of a degree Centigrade/Celsius

Your inability to understand 4th Grade Math does not enhance your credibility or your claims that you understand Science



The NOAA refutes all of your claims.

Let's examine Reality & Truth & Science.....



Your teeny tiny 0.2°C temperature pales in comparison to the Average Global Temperature of the previous Inter-Glacial Period.



The Reality is that this is the coldest Inter-Glacial Period in known history, and that the Average Global Temperature will need to increase 6.2°F to lose that honor....

....in which case this would be the 2nd coldest Inter-Glacial Period in known history.

Educating AGW nutters one brain cell at a time....


Mircea
A science teacher should help you understand those charts better in comparison to what I am saying. That wasn't a "gotcha moment" kiddo.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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Well, this supports what I was saying at the time on the weather forum: all that heatmonger propaganda about it being the hottest month on record and a preview of things to come* was a bit overblown to say the least. I reiterate another thing I said then: July 2012's and July 1936's temperatures averaged so close to each other that the tiny differences between them render a draw as a better description comparing the two than one beating the other.

*This was the basic line of thought put forth that the global warming crowd are now trying to skunk out of. They equated (and still equate) weather and climate when it was convenient for their position and use "weather is not climate" only when the weather doesn't fit in with the narrative. The fact is that weather is not climate, and I wish the same restraint that is used by the media and AGW proponents during cold weather was applied just as consistently during hot weather.

I would also like to remind everyone of an investment maxim that applies just as much to climate: past performance does not guarantee future results.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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DOH! More Settled Science it seems!


LOL, they changed the 1936 numbers....
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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I think I found where the data has changed. Their site didn't work well on my phone, but it contradicts itself on another page that still says July 2012 was the hottest month.

U.S. Climate Extremes Index (CEI) | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

Though at the bottom of this chart it says this, which it should because science isn't static.

"Limitations: Statistics for the most recent period/season are computed from a fraction of the U.S. which has data available at that time. Extreme percentage values can and will likely change as final quality controlled data become available and fill in the data gaps."


With that said, even the climate blogger's data doesn't change much, the trend still shows an increasing temperature over a period of time.
What a differnce shuffling around data can make over at NOOA. One year the data says one thing, the next we show differences of almost one degree in temperature. Here are two graphs that look completely different:


Notice how the trend in 1900 was about 73.8 degrees, in 2012 the trend was 75.2 degrees, the high was 77.6 in 2012



Now the trend in 1900 is 73.1 degrees, the trend in 2012 is 74.2 degrees, and the high temp is 77.8 in 1936.

Can anyone seriously trust the garbage that comes out of these places when they can play so fast and loose with the data?
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: North America
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Care to show me where NOAA said July 2012 wasn't the hottest month? None of the links on the OP link back up that claim. You shouldn't believe everything you read from climate bloggers.
He can't, which is why he isn't responding to you.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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A month? A month means nothing.
Another one who can't tell the difference between climate and weather.
It meant something when they first declared it as it was "proof"
Now that they put it back.."it means nothing".

LOL
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