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View Poll Results: Who did the 9/11 attacks?
It was Bush/The US government 33 44.59%
It was the terrorists/al qaeda/Osama Bin Laden 41 55.41%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-28-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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It was Bush.

I will repeat this again:

Skyscrapers do not collapse from airplane impacts. Thermodynamics and structural analysis.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: midwest
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The Laws of Physics are incapable of giving a damn about Liberals, Conservative, Democrats or Republicans, or the CIA or the Mossad or Al Qaeda.

Physics does not care about the human race.

9/11 is a physics problem. Who did what is irrelevant until the physics is understood.

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Old 07-28-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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Law of conservation of energy says some work must have been done to the structure before it's freefall happened (gravitational potentional energy to kinetic energy). Considering there was more than an hour gap before the impact and the building collapse, there was external work (controlled demolition), or a complete breakdown of the building's insulation and fire suppression system (thermodynamic conundrum). For starters, jet fuel doesn't melt steel. It can weaken its integrity, but it doesn't melt it. No skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire "melting" the steel.

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Old 07-28-2014, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The 9/11 attacks were Saudi funded and nearly all of the hijhackers were from Saudi Arabia-it makes no sense that who funded and committed the attacks was of no concern to our Government. We go after the poor and helpless instead of the moneyed interest-as per usual in our society. It is also very unsettling that the Bush family are like lapdogs to the Saudis.

So while I don't think you could say the Bush administration was directly responsible for 9/11, I do think that we had enough knowledge to stop it (as per dozens of NSA and CIA whistleblowers) but our Government chose to take advantage of a catastrophe to push through laws that would typically be rejected (and were) under normal circumstances.

Naomi Klein wrote a book called The Shock Doctrine about how Governments around the World take advantage of unsuspecting citizens directly following catastrophes and terror in order to wage wars and push through laws.

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Old 07-28-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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It was Bush.

I will repeat this again:

Skyscrapers do not collapse from airplane impacts. Thermodynamics and structural analysis.


and WTC Building 7 wasn't even hit by an airplane.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg



and yet on 9/11 it collapses neatly into its own footprint, as if by magic, in the manner of a classic controlled demolition??
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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No one on the right-wing will address my post.

What work was done to the buildings to comply with the law of conservation of energy?
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Some of the more eloquent truthers, I will listen to. I'm no expert on buildings' physics. But I don't believe in some conspiracy.[MOD CUT/off topic] They had nothing to do with 9/11 or al-Qaeda.

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Old 07-28-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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Skyscrapers do not collapse from airplane impacts.
Correct, as evidenced by the fact that both towers kept standing after the impact. However, setting off a 20,000 gallon Molotov cocktail to add to the impact damage - that's a different story.

Oh, and I'm not a rightwinger. Far from it.
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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Correct, as evidenced by the fact that both towers kept standing after the impact. However, setting off a 20,000 gallon Molotov cocktail to add to the impact damage - that's a different story.

Oh, and I'm not a rightwinger. Far from it.
So your hypothesis is that the 20,000 gallon explosion that happened over an hour before the building collapse did the work necessary to comply with the law of conservation of energy?
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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Correct, as evidenced by the fact that both towers kept standing after the impact. However, setting off a 20,000 gallon Molotov cocktail to add to the impact damage - that's a different story.

Oh, and I'm not a rightwinger. Far from it.
1) That sounds a bit absurd. Why would an explosion well above the 80th floor cause the whole building to come down?

2) No airplane and no jet fuel struck Building 7. Why did it collapse?
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