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Old 08-03-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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Human Shields, straight from the horses mouth.

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Old 08-03-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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How Gaza became one big suicide bomb
 
Old 08-03-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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Palestinian factions release demands for Gaza ceasefire
Palestinian factions release demands for Gaza ceasefire - Israel News, Ynetnews
Instead of relying on an Israeli news source for information on Palestinian demands for a ceasefire, wouldn't it make more sense to go to an Arab news source if you want to know what Hamas wants.

After all, if I want a clear picture of Israel's views on the ceasefire, I go to Israeli news, not an Arab source.

But---oh!---if you go to AlJazeera you might just learn something you don't want to learn!
 
Old 08-03-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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Egypt has a border with Gaza which it controls all the exit/entry through it. So your statement is completely inaccurate.

It's not completely inaccurate. And I also do not understand why Egypt has closed its border to the Palestinians.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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Here is some information on what the Palestinians are proposing in negotiations. Of course, so far, it is uncertain if Israel will even come to to the table. (Israel has not sent a delegation, but says it will speak with Egyptian mediators after they finish meeting with the Palestinians.

"Palestinian negotiators in Cairo have agreed on a joint set of conditions to be presented to Egyptian mediators on how to end the war in Gaza, which has so far claimed the lives of more than 1,830 Palestinians, largely civilians, and 66 Israelis, almost all of them soldiers.

--- both Hamas and the broader Palestinian leadership will demand an end to the military siege imposed on Gaza, which includes lifting restrictions on the movement of people and goods through the border crossings.

----previously agreed-upon demands, which include the release of pre-Oslo Accords detainees, as part of a US-sponsored agreement back in April

----the release of about 60 [recently re-arrested] prisoners who were freed in a 2011 exchange for captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit"


Gaza truce diplomacy: The ever-changing mess - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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Here is some information on what the Palestinians are proposing in negotiations. Of course, so far, it is uncertain if Israel will even come to to the table. (Israel has not sent a delegation, but says it will speak with Egyptian mediators after they finish meeting with the Palestinians.

"Palestinian negotiators in Cairo have agreed on a joint set of conditions to be presented to Egyptian mediators on how to end the war in Gaza, which has so far claimed the lives of more than 1,830 Palestinians, largely civilians, and 66 Israelis, almost all of them soldiers.

--- both Hamas and the broader Palestinian leadership will demand an end to the military siege imposed on Gaza, which includes lifting restrictions on the movement of people and goods through the border crossings.

----previously agreed-upon demands, which include the release of pre-Oslo Accords detainees, as part of a US-sponsored agreement back in April

----the release of about 60 [recently re-arrested] prisoners who were freed in a 2011 exchange for captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit"


Gaza truce diplomacy: The ever-changing mess - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
And what does Israel get out of it?
 
Old 08-03-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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And what does Israel get out of it?
You tell me. A stop to the rockets being fired from Gaza. A stop to the "terror tunnels" being dug into their country. That is what they claim they want, isn't it?
 
Old 08-03-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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Hopefully Israel will now totally IGNORE war-hero Kerry and the USA's very own
Islamo-sleeper-agent.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 08:12 PM
 
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Hopefully Israel will now totally IGNORE war-hero Kerry and the USA's very own
Islamo-sleeper-agent.
Yeah, if Israel continues to spurn the peace-talk negotiations, that'll lead to peace now won't it?
 
Old 08-03-2014, 08:31 PM
 
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You tell me. A stop to the rockets being fired from Gaza. A stop to the "terror tunnels" being dug into their country. That is what they claim they want, isn't it?
So after the last treaty, what exactly stopped Hamas from firing rockets from Gaza and digging "terror tunnels"?

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