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Amen..I hope the Catholic Church either finds the light or just fades to black, you support the evils of Socialism you are an agent of darkness.
Its bad enough the have ruin the New East for at least the next 30 years...Jerks...
Any good passages about those who pervert, corrupt and or prostitute the word of God for personal gain?
No, but there are a few that demonstrate the opposite. The Golden Calf, the Widow's Mites, the Good Samaritan, Feeding the Five Thousand, Turning over the moneychangers' tables and driving them out of the church with whips, and the Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah because the rich ignored the poor begging at their doors (It had nothing to do with sex) are a couple of good starters.
When churches quit being businesses and start to practice these things instead of taking out multi-million dollar loans for air conditioned buildings with cushions on the seats (With which I'm sure God will be impressed if He ever visits them) while the homeless and hungry sleep in the bushes literally in the shade of their walls they might become relevant again. Christianity is not about where you go to church, or whether you do. It is about the way you live and the way you treat those less fortunate.
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Matthew 25, for example, has a few lovely verses that lay out proposals for those who would truly follow Christ quite nicely. This is KJV, which is the text I grew up with:
"31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
Let your daily life be your sermon, in other words. The rest is vanity (with thanks to Ecclesiastes).
Why do you lefties always claim Jesus knowing that Jesus would have been pro-life, pro-capitalism and anti-tax?
Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons according to Numbers 3:15-16
"Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD".
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But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation. Woe to you who are full now, for you will be hungry. Woe to you who are laughing now, for you will mourn and weep.” — Luke 6:24-25
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“Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them again.” —Luke 6:30
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If you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love your enemies, do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High; for he is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked.” — Luke 6:34-35
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“As for those who fell among the thorns, these are the ones who hear; but as they go on their way, they are choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of life, and their fruit does not mature.” — Luke 8:14
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“What does it profit them if they gain the whole world, but lose or forfeit themselves?” — Luke 9:25
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17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. - Matthew 22:17-21
If you want a few more, give a shout. There are plenty of them.
You probably wouldn't have a very high opinion of early Christian communities. They were about as communist (in the classical sense of it) as you could get.
Voluntary sharing and association works just fine.
He was not opposed to making a profit, but He was in favor of distributing it to the poor. He also taught in favor of paying your workmen fairly and preached against the accumulation of wealth.
He was not opposed to making a profit, but He was in favor of distributing it to the poor. He also taught in favor of paying your workmen fairly and preached against the accumulation of wealth.
He did not preach government redistribution of wealth.
He did not preach against people being prosperous.
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If you want the specific verses, holler.
Nothing in the Bible suggests man has any capability of judging another person, or whether what they have should be taken from them, as a judgment of their worthiness to have it.
Thus, socialism and the modern left is in complete contradiction of Christianity.
He did not preach government redistribution of wealth.
He did not preach against people being prosperous.
Nothing in the Bible suggests man has any capability of judging another person, or whether what they have should be taken from them, as a judgment of their worthiness to have it.
Thus, socialism and the modern left is in complete contradiction of Christianity.
Matthew 19 has a different take on that.
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20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
What you are saying is that your interpretation is that redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle-class to the rich a la Reagan and trickle-down is a good thing, but redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor as suggested by Pope Francis (and Jesus) is a bad thing. Care to back that up with scripture?
Speaking as a Catholic I see the decline in our church is being caused by the Catholic Church becoming more Liberal over the last 50 years.
In which ways is the catholic church becoming "more liberal"? I was born and raised a catholic, but still see the church as anti-choice and anti-gay. It hasn't changed one iota except for a few meaningless moonbeam pronouncements from the current pope, who does little to change the existing hierarchy or control the outright bigotry of his American archbishops and cardinals.
He did not preach against people being prosperous.
Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
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Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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Matthew 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
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Luke 12:15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth. 16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: 17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? 18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. 19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. 20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? 21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God. 22 And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on.
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Isn't it mostly growing in 3rd world countries? I've heard Catholic friends complain that they "can't understand their priest" because they have to ship them in from other countries and have recruitment problems in the U.S.
Uh-oh, now he's going to call you a "racist" for saying that. hee-hee.
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for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. 
