How long do you think it'll take for American society to oppose male genital mutiliation? (government, first amendment)

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Originally Posted by Lodestar

And don't assume anyone is making the decision for the baby except for the doctor. After my son was circumcised they brought me the papers to sign agreeing to circumcision! It hadn't even been discussed with the doctor at that point.

They could have as easily asked the father to sign them but I was right there and he had returned to work.

Would you have been as complacent if it had been a girl and the Dr. circumcised her without your consent?

[helenejen]

Originally Posted by TigerLily24

You're a bit behind the times.
There is already a movement, has been for a few years now.

It's a good thing.

And support groups: Beginner's Guide - How To Restore Foreskin | Restoring Foreskin.org

But male circumcision isn't really the point of this thread.

[lvoc]

The issue is simply being sensationalized.

The actual issue is what limits should be set on medical decision making by parents for children.

OP appears to believe that all elective medical decision be postponed until the child is able to make its own decision.

The difficulty though is that elective is not a fixed quantity. It may have significant costs.

So what criteria is it that OP would prescribe? Shall a parent be barred from vaccination until the child can make its own election?

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Originally Posted by helenejen

And support groups: Beginner's Guide - How To Restore Foreskin | Restoring Foreskin.org

But male circumcision isn't really the point of this thread.

Oh really? And you base that on what? Considering that is what the entire topic is about.

[TigerLily24]

Originally Posted by VTHokieFan

I enjoy making these threads because it forces people to face their hypocrisies and ignorance. It's funny to watch posters squirm and refuse to address the issues head on time and again.

I apply the "my body my choice" feminist frame work to males, and the response, of course, is "you don't have a right to your own foreskin." The responses rendered were what I expected.

On this we agree 100%. It is extremely hypocritical to not view them in exactly the same manner.

[TigerLily24]

Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake

You can justify anything on the internet:




Wouldn't it be simple if we could just agree that circumcision should be the choice of the individual, when they are old enough to understand the implications and make an informed decision, than something done because of old traditions or religious superstitions?

Yes.

[Ivorytickler]

Foreskin restoration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apparently men do have a choice here. I wonder if restored men would have the same issues with STD transmission and increased risks of penile and cervical cancers.

[carterstamp]

Originally Posted by VTHokieFan

I can't show you a law because unfortunately there is no law banning male genital mutilation.

A law that requires it, outside of religious law.

[carterstamp]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

The only people that think male circumcision is "mutilation" are Moslems.

Stop it...please. Muslims circumcise their male children, because Abraham did.

[TigerLily24]

Originally Posted by Lodestar

And don't assume anyone is making the decision for the baby except for the doctor. After my son was circumcised they brought me the papers to sign agreeing to circumcision! It hadn't even been discussed with the doctor at that point.

They could have as easily asked the father to sign them but I was right there and he had returned to work.

I'm sorry, what?
They circumcised your child without written approval or prior discussion?

And you are okay with that?

Wow. Just wow.