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Old 09-15-2014, 11:14 PM
 
Location: NJ
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/us...=top-news&_r=0

Obviously this is terrific news! I had not seen this earlier today!
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Before Obamacare we had 46 million uninsured.
After Obamacare we have 41 million uninsured.

An entire industry was turned on it's head for 2 million because 3 million got expanded medicaid.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Before Obamacare we had 46 million uninsured.
After Obamacare we have 41 million uninsured.

An entire industry was turned on it's head for 2 million because 3 million got expanded medicaid.
That's because it does nothing to address the real problems. The largest of which is cost.

But then again, most rational people already knew that.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That's because it does nothing to address the real problems. The largest of which is cost.

But then again, most rational people already knew that.
But it never did try to address rising health costs.
It was all about mandating that every American have insurance and if you couldn't afford it the government gave you a "subsidy" which was really a credit against your next year's earnings.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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One million lost their insurance so a few million could get welfare. Cool success story.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Obamacare is a bad idea conjured up in a right wing think tank. It is more about saving insurance companies and pharmaceutical firms than saving lives. We could have everyone covered if we had adopted universal tax-funded healthcare like every other civilized country has. The left should stop defending Obamacare and demand something better.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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It is (entirely) about saving insurance companies and pharmaceutical firms than saving lives.
We could have everyone covered if we had adopted universal tax-funded healthcare like every other civilized country has.
Correct.

Even if we went Universal for just the more serious illness/injury level we would be better off.
Take the worry of bankruptingly expensive catastrophic and traumatic care out of the picture
and then payment for most of medical care is not a concern for the individual OR the provider.
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Old 09-16-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Obamacare is a bad idea conjured up in a right wing think tank. It is more about saving insurance companies and pharmaceutical firms than saving lives. We could have everyone covered if we had adopted universal tax-funded healthcare like every other civilized country has. The left should stop defending Obamacare and demand something better.
Oh stop with that nonsense. Eizkiel Manual claims to be the architect. He is a far left loon.
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Old 09-16-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/us...=top-news&_r=0

Obviously this is terrific news! I had not seen this earlier today!

More medicaid patients............... Hooray!

Now who is going to see them?
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Old 09-16-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yep, which is why they are a great indicator of what is wrong. If they like it then another idea should be considered.
41 million are still uninsured though out of 46 million to start with.
That's hardly a success.
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