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More FUD. That's a 3rd hand report. Show the source and quote where the attorney says they committed a robbery - not a 3rd hand media report.
You can discount this if you wish, but I did see Johnson's attorney interviewed on CNN where he did say his client told police and the FBI that Brown stole the cigars. When I'm not on an iPad, I'll try to find the interview.
He was a teenager. Are any of your teenagers angels? No, then why demonize this teen. Why must black kids be perfect in order not to be killed?
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They don't have to be perfect. But it does help if they don't steal, assault innocent people, attack cops, try to take their duty weapons and then charge them. Guess what...a white person that did those same things would be just as dead.
It's just that MOST white people aren't that STUPID. Of course, neither are the vast majority of black people. Darwinism is a b.
Why in the name of all that is holy is everyone so fixated on robbery/non-robbery???
The only events that actually matter is an apparent attempt to arrest, a struggle between Brown and the policeman, Brown attempting to run away and the officer gunning down Michael Brown. The officer needs to justify his use of deadly force. By any measure, the officer's use of deadly force was absolutely over-the-top. Shooting somebody six times "in self defense"??
When this whole story was just breaking, I repeatedly said I'd wait for footage from camera in the police car or on the officer's chest. Many police departments require them. Ferguson doesn't. That leaves us with a whole lot of he said/she said. It really comes down to the witnesses at this point. If their versions are as convoluted and conflicting as I keep hearing about, the officer can claim just about anything he wants and he walk away.
If nothing else good comes of it, at least this should pressure any police departments who do not currently have cameras to get them ASAP. They protect the public from bad cops and they protect good cops from false accusations.
There's more than just the witness accounts. There will be substantial forensic evidence as well that, by law, the DA is not allowed to release publicly yet.
I'm speechless. Sharpton said so much that I agree with. Its weird and I don't know what to do now. And it wasn't just what I quote here, but other things.
I'd love to stay and chat about this one but the four Horsemen of the apocalypse are at the door asking to borrow a cup of sulfer.
More FUD. That's a 3rd hand report. Show the source and quote where the attorney says they committed a robbery - not a 3rd hand media report.
“In an interview with msnbc shortly after the report was released, Johnson’s lawyer confirmed that Brown had taken cigars from the store.
We see that there’s tape, that they claim they got a tape that shows there was some sort of strong-armed robbery,” said Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney. “We need to see that tape, my client did tell us and told the FBI that they went into the store. He told FBI that [Brown] did take cigarillos. He told that to the DOJ and the St. Louis County Police.”
I think you guys are wrong. Regardless of what the video shows. . .a Robbery by law requires that something must be taken without consent.
If the "victim" decides not to press charges, the prosecution can not proceed on Robbery. . So therefore he can't be convicted of robbery.
Maybe a lesser charge (crime against the state, theft) could be charged - but I don't see it happening.
For all we know, and without the owner of the store being subpoena. They argued over the price, it got heated, but the guy left with an accommodation.
Wonder why people just love to jump to conclusions on really flimsy evidence.
I for one won't be calling anyone a thief or a robber unless their is some sort of judicial conclusion as such.
You are dead wrong. Too much tv for you.
Sometimes we have what is called an "unwilling victim" in a robbery.
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A prosecutor also can decide to pursue a case even if the victim tells the police or the prosecutor that he does not want to press charges. Television and Hollywood movies sometimes create the impression that the victim decides whether to press charges and, therefore, whether the offender will be subject to criminal prosecution. This is not accurate.
The prosecutor has the power to demand that the victim testify by issuing a subpoena to appear at trial. If the person ignores the subpoena and does not appear or refuses to testify, the judge can issue a bench warrant (like an arrest warrant), hold the victim in contempt and put the person in jail.
With the power of a subpoena, the prosecutor usually can compel attendance and testimony, but the value of a reluctant or hostile witness is debatable. The victim might change his testimony at the last minute and claim that he was mistaken or lied previously because he was angry. A skilful and manipulative victim might be able to convince the jury or judge that she was mistaken at the scene or that the police misunderstood her. If a victim is angry and hostile, his attitude might affect the jury’s belief in the case.
The authorities were called to the scene. A report was filed. The report referenced the incident as a felony 2nd degree strong arm robbery.
In order to make this determination police would have to interview the victim. Why? Strong arm robbery requires force or the use of force on the victim. You must ask the victim if the perp used force or the threat of force against him.
The victim can recant if he wants. Too late. Authorities were lawfully on the scene and lawfully collected evidence (the tape).
All this is really quite obtuse on your part anyway. How the clerk legally pursues this matter is directly impacted by the shooting and death of the perp just minutes later.
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