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Old 09-03-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Would you like to place a wager? How much would you like to wager that the school is willing to provide the same or equivalent room to Christians if they asked for it? The superintendent said that they would have to accommodate all students equally.
No, the superintendent said:
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"...if any students wanted to have a group of non-religious activity, the district would need to accommodate them."
N4T Investigators: Church and State | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:30 PM
 
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Answer the question RE: the wager. It doesn't even have to be $500, it can be as little as $1.

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"Students are to be permitted to pray or engage in religious activities or expression in the same manner and to the same extent as students are permitted to engage in non-religious activities or expression, before, during and after the school day."
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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False. Doesn't say a word about that:

N4T Investigators: Church and State | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona

It says students are permitted to pray. It also says non-religious activities are accommodated.
Obviously, because non-religious activities are accommodated in the same way that religious activities are accommodated.

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So why are Muslims accommodated with a specific prayer room while other groups are restricted to requests for accommodations for only non-religious activities?
Since you're so picky about exact wording while ignoring context - show me exactly where Favela said "we only accommodate muslim students."
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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False. The public school in question has not provided prayer rooms for any of those other groups.
Show us where any other group asked, as the muslim kids asked, and were turned down.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:36 PM
 
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Would you like to place a wager? How much would you like to wager that the school is willing to provide the same or equivalent room to Christians if they asked for it? The superintendent said that they would have to accommodate all students equally.

How about $500 towards planned parenthood?

Here is her contact info. Either you or I can shoot an email over at anytime.

Superintendent | Sunnyside Unified School District
Hey, I'll add $500 to that! How about it informed, $1000 for a simple email exchange. Wouldn't that be sweet, collect $1000 for a total of 90 seconds' work. How can you turn it down?

Edited to add - I'll match whatever number you and lycos agree is fair.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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No.

In some places the insanity extends to making it forbidden to say "bless you" when someone sneezes.
The professor would pee his pants if a Muslim student took offense to saying "Allah Bless You!"

Christians are much easier, not to mention safer, targets.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:02 PM
 
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Answer the question RE: the wager. It doesn't even have to be $500, it can be as little as $1.
Sure:
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"Dr. Favela says if any students wanted to have a group of non-religious activity, the district would need to accommodate them."
N4T Investigators: Church and State | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona

Key word: accommodate.

The only group accommodated for religious activities in that public school are the Muslims. The superintendent indicates other groups will be accommodated for non-religious activities.

How is that so hard for you to understand?
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:04 PM
 
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The meaning of Christmas has changed, Christmas is just a drunk fest of credit card debt.
My Viking forefathers would be puzzled be the credit card thing, but an excessive party at midwinter would be just their style. That's how we rolled at Yuletide before the missionaries showed up...
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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Obviously, because non-religious activities are accommodated in the same way that religious activities are accommodated.
There is no indication of that. No one has provided any evidence that the public school in question has provided a prayer room for Christians, Jews, or any other religious group, and the superintendent has gone on record in the news article linked in the OP indicating only that groups will be accommodated for non-religious activities.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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Sure:N4T Investigators: Church and State | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona

Key word: accommodate.

The only group accommodated for religious activities in that public school are the Muslims. The superintendent indicates other groups will be accommodated for non-religious activities.

How is that so hard for you to understand?


Several people have responded several times to these contentions of yours, and what we have said just rolls right off.

So, now down to brass tacks. If you're so sure you're right, how about putting your money where your mouth is?

What about the wager? What can you possibly lose?

What can we do to set up an escrow account?

Soon as there is one, I'll deposit $500 to it.

Or are you all hat and no cattle?
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