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From 1973 to 2011, worker productivity grew 80 percent, while median hourly compensation, after inflation, grew by just one-eighth that amount, according to the Economic Policy Institute
More profits going to owners and loaners of industry then wages. Despite less employees and higher productivity.
I should negotiate compensation and workload with the party I do business with directly.
End of story.
Exactly.....
If someone is willing to pay more than an employee is worth then that is between that employer and the employee. It shouldn't be legislated.
No where did I state that salary should be legislated, quite the opposite actually. Today we have people demanding more pay without actually doing anything to deserve more pay or earn a higher salary. Basically their entire argument is that they can't live on minimum wage. Good then do something about why you can only land minimum wage jobs. By you I don't mean you personally, I do mean those who have no marketable skills for better jobs/ pay.
Exactly.....
If someone is willing to pay more than an employee is worth then that is between that employer and the employee. It shouldn't be legislated.
No where did I state that salary should be legislated, quite the opposite actually. Today we have people demanding more pay without actually doing anything to deserve more pay or earn a higher salary. Basically their entire argument is that they can't live on minimum wage. Good then do something about why you can only land minimum wage jobs. By you I don't mean you personally, I do mean those who have no marketable skills for better jobs/ pay.
But you gave parameters for a salary. Years exp, "skill", "responsibility", etc.
Unless those are your own personal parameters.
If I want to pay someone $500 per hour to draw me rainbows and unicorns...so be it. If I am willing to build a man a table for $1...so be it.
Only the parties involved should decide pay and workload/conditions.
My only argument is for minimum wage to be the minimum amount needed for subsistence without taxpayer subsidy. We have economists to figure out the numbers as to what it would be.
My gut feeling as of now leans to $12-$14 / hour or so currently, but like I said an economist could figure that out better than me.
Large corporations may be able to pay a livable wage, but small businesses can ill afford to pay those kind of wages and should be exempt.
For some people the choice isn't there. We need burger flippers. If it is
unlivable, we relegate those people to poverty. Everyone cannot be skilled. If
everyone is skilled no one is skilled. If everyone has a Bachelor's
degree, we will still need burger flippers.
If you pay burger flippers $15 or $20 per hr., then what is the incentive to better ones self? then we have a nation full of blubbering idiots who only know how to flip burgers. Education is the key to a better life for the most part. Don't get me wrong, I am not totally against unskilled labor receiving a decent wage, in fact if places like McDonalds paid a little better, they might improve the quality of their employees.
Pedro was right. If you make a genuine effort to improve your situation, it is extremely likely that you will be, in some way, successful.
People aren't trying, though. That's the problem. They're whining and crying about their situation, waiting for someone to do something about it. The thing is, though, they're not grasping that it's THEM who needs to "do something about it."
Life ain't free or fair, and it never has been. That isn't going to change, no matter how much money you steal from employers to give to their employees.
It is the "entitlement cultures" way to have Uncle Sam do everything for them, generation after generation.
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Unbelievable. Conservatism is also a mental disorder.
Liberalism attracts people who are unhappy who live in a world of "they should this or they shouldn't do that". They believe they "deserve" things when they can't afford it, hence they get themselves in trouble financially. Demanding a "living wage" is an example of their world of should. Liberals say: Lets march and demand a "living wage
Conservatives are basically happy, they've learned to operate in the world of reality and it benefits them. They understand that the world will never be a utopia. They understand that no one will take care of themselves or cares about them more than themselves. They understand supply and demand, that if there are so many people competing for the same job they can't demand a higher wage, so they say I'll better my education, bettering my skills or I'll start a business.
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