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Did you pay the mason to perform a service? You seemed to skip over that point. Which if you paid a service, then the mason simply decided to show the customer how to do their own job...that doesn't sound like he didn't want to tell you his knowledge.
LOL, do you think the mason came to my house for nothing? A guy with his experience makes uber bucks, they don't come cheap.
You need to read carefully what you are commenting on and stop making assumptions. He was paid to lay a foundation which is not something for the inexperienced to do. The tips and tricksI learned from him will help me with some future smaller projects. I traded some labor for some experience. This was all made clear in my previous posts.
Why would I continue to work for free once I've gained the knowledge I need? This may surprise you but many people like the mason I helped would decline that offer because they don't want to give up that knowledge or you may be more of a hindrance.About the only reason I got way with it was because he was aware I knew how to work.
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LOL, do you think the mason came to my house for nothing? A guy with his experience makes uber bucks, they don't come cheap.
You need to read carefully what you are commenting on and stop making assumptions.
Interesting, you never made any mention that the mason you helped was doing work on your house. So in other words, you didn't work for free, you paid him to do a job and he showed you how to do that job.
So you contradict yourself by saying the mason doesn't want to give up knowledge, yet he is willing to give up knowledge to a customer.
You need to properly write what you are saying if you wish others to have all of the facts. I am not a mind reader, nor did I know he was working on your house because you never mentioned you were a paying customer.
Your circular style of arguing a point is always going to bite you in the ass because if you keep going in a circle eventually you get back to where you started.
The SCOTUS had already ruled that unpaid internships that meet certain criteria are NOT in violation of the FLSA. California also allows unpaid internships that meet the criteria. Our boys in Sacramento just want their cut in most cases.
Well then I missed that, I apologize. Though this doesn't change the fact that you were a customer, not an unpaid worker because you were actually paying the mason to do work for you and he was willing to let the customer help him with his work. That is much different than working for free, like you were claiming you did.
The SCOTUS had already ruled that unpaid internships that meet certain criteria are NOT in violation of the FLSA. California also allows unpaid internships that meet the criteria. Our boys in Sacramento just want their cut in most cases.
Maybe they should have gone the route of unpaid internship rather than volunteer help for a for profit company.
What if one of them injured themselves on the job, is the winery going to pay for the medical bills because of workers comp? They violated the law and needed to rely on unpaid labor to survive. Not a successful winery if you ask me.
I would think liability would be thought out beforehand. If one volunteers there should be an agreement and it would depend on the agreement. Workers comp is insurance, so not sure of your point. Are you asking if volunteers are covered for injury? People can be injured walking down the street should they not walk down the street? Don't see how this really relates to the topic.
I would think liability would be thought out beforehand. If one volunteers there should be an agreement and it would depend on the agreement. Workers comp is insurance, so not sure of your point. Are you asking if volunteers are covered for injury?
Yes that is what I am asking, based on the article, it sounded like there wasn't any legal paperwork done that would have made their volunteer work okay.
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