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Old 10-10-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Wow--simplistic answers or what?

What the USA does not want is another endless quagmire of a ground war.
I did say it was a "short answer" .... lot's of stuff going on in each of these countries.
Nobody really cares, or I would have written more.

As for the USA in another war -- not to worry, that's not happening.
What we see now is just some "Window Dressing" for the Mid-Term elections. We occasionally (only 8 in the last 24 hours) drop a 1/2 Million dollar bomb on a $30,000 pick-up truck - but it's just for show.

Team Obama has already said "Kobani doesn't matter and there is probably nobody left there anyway".
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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Seriously. Why commit your own forces in your own region, when you can have the world cop do your dirty work for you?
and we've spent trillions of $'s fighting for and protecting Muslims, Islamics, Islamists -- what's the difference
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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and we've spent trillions of $'s fighting for and protecting Muslims, Islamics, Islamists -- what's the difference


We shouldn't be spending money on fighting, or protecting anyone over there! How about we focus on the problems at home for once?
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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We shouldn't be spending money on fighting, or protecting anyone over there! How about we focus on the problems at home for once?
yea - that ship has sailed
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Putting aside the obligation to lessen human suffering, can you imagine a world where other countries don't have the same interests as the USA? Maybe then you can understand why Turkey isn't doing anything.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: USA
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"What in the world is Turkey waiting for??"

They are unsure and afraid and waiting for us. Just as we have trained NATO and all of our other Allies to do 'Wait for the Americans'

If we really view ISIS as a threat, we would have a coalition on the ground and not just in the air.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Putting aside the obligation to lessen human suffering, can you imagine a world where other countries don't have the same interests as the USA? Maybe then you can understand why Turkey isn't doing anything.
that's already happened. the initial indifference resulting in 2 world wars
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Smoke rises from Kobani, a town right on their border, a big chunk of it already seized by ISIS. Yet they refuse to take any action on the ground alone. Is it because they can't?? Maybe that's just it.... they haven't fought a real a war in ~100 yrs.

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Turkey: No solo ground action against ISIS - CNN.com
It is not in their best interests to act now.

[different motives]
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Smoke rises from Kobani, a town right on their border, a big chunk of it already seized by ISIS. Yet they refuse to take any action on the ground alone. Is it because they can't?? Maybe that's just it.... they haven't fought a real a war in ~100 yrs.

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Turkey: No solo ground action against ISIS - CNN.com
The short answer is they have no interest in fighting ISIS. Turkey was providing support to anti-Assad forces long before this became a fight over ISIS. Turkey has its eyes on the Syrian regime, as does ISIS. The enemy of my enemy is my (temporary) friend.

In the event that Turkey is attacked, it can count on support from its NATO allies to repel ISIS fighters (and Turkey is no slouch militarily, itself). Turkey's regional rivals, Iran and Syria, are threatened by ISIS (as are the Kurds, another Turkish worry), thereby benefiting Turkey.

Turkey has no NATO collective defense obligations because ISIS has not attacked a NATO member. Why ruin the thing that is damaging your rivals?
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:46 PM
 
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The short answer is they have no interest in fighting ISIS. Turkey was providing support to anti-Assad forces long before this became a fight over ISIS. Turkey has its eyes on the Syrian regime, as does ISIS. The enemy of my enemy is my (temporary) friend.

In the event that Turkey is attacked, it can count on support from its NATO allies to repel ISIS fighters (and Turkey is no slouch militarily, itself). Turkey's regional rivals, Iran and Syria, are threatened by ISIS (as are the Kurds, another Turkish worry), thereby benefiting Turkey.

Turkey has no NATO collective defense obligations because ISIS has not attacked a NATO member. Why ruin the thing that is damaging your rivals?
thanks for a well thought out and succinct response.
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