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Old 10-15-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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yikes.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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This is why we need to halt this disease quickly, so it does not mutate like this.

Medical Research Org CIDRAP: Ebola Transmittable by Air

The highly respected Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota just advised the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and World Health Organization (WHO) that “there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles,” including exhaled breath.

CIDRAP is warning that surgical facemasks do not prevent transmission of Ebola, and healthcare professionals (HCP) must immediately be outfitted with full-hooded protective gear and powered air-purifying respirators.
The authors of that article are not physicians and do not appear to understand the logistics of using those suits in Africa. The 3M hood pictured costs over $1000 each if you buy four. There are areas in Africa where there would be no reliable electricity to recharge the batteries, and it's hot over there.

Ivoc, who is an engineer, posted in one of the other threads here that it should be possible to make such a hood much less expensively.

Emory has managed to treat patients using standard hospital gear. They have hoods available, but use of them is apparently more for worker comfort than because they are felt to be necessary.

Even hoods have to be removed safely, too.

Informative videos on the Emory unit and its Ebola experience. You have to wonder why the Dallas hospital did not send someone to Emory to observe their procedures.


Third patient with Ebola virus disease arrives at Emory University Hospital | Emory University | Atlanta, GA
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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MyFoxNY.com @MyFoxNY · 4m 4 minutes ago
Breaking: @CDCgov says 2nd #Ebola patient flew #Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas Monday; advises passengers to contact them

Any of you not concerned in the least on that flight?
Duncan took three flights before arriving at his destination in Dallas, 26 days ago. He also had substantial layovers in Brussels and Dulles. No one on those flights or in those airports has become infected with Ebola. Duncan had no symptoms at that point of his journey.

Did all those who treated Ebola patients at Emroy, The National Institute of Health and Nebraska Medical Center isolate?
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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yikes.
It sounds like the flight came from Cincinnati. So the Ebola patient was there first? This means that there were people in Cincinnati exposed as well.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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I was wondering why the morning news shows were so seriously discussing the possibility of restricting flights from affected countries, but this could be why they're suddenly taking everything more seriously..Ebola Panic Hits TV News Divisions: Coworkers "Wave and Keep on Going"
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I was wondering why the morning news shows were so seriously discussing the possibility of restricting flights from affected countries, but this could be an indicator they're suddenly taking everything more seriously..Ebola Panic Hits TV News Divisions: Coworkers "Wave and Keep on Going"
It would seem wise to restrict all persons leaving Dallas for the next 21 days.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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The CDC might not identify the breach of protocol, but this nurses' union has done that for them: there was no real protocol:


Texas nurses: 'There were no protocols' about Ebola - CNN.com
Hey, man, chit happens.

Of Scientists And Mice

"Live traps containing food were placed around the room, a "Do Not Enter" sign was posted and the bottom of the door was barricaded to prevent escape, the records say. Staff were also instructed "to visually make eye contact with the floor surrounding the door to ensure the rodent did not attempt to leave the room as the door was opened/closed." Yet when scientists went back into the room at 3:30 p.m., they still couldn't find the rodent."

"It was last seen running behind the table, before it disappeared."

New lab incidents fuel fear, safety concerns in Congress

WARNING: DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH THIS RODENT!
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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They are waking up as they and most of them (party line) have been put to sleep by the government imho.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No health workers in Nebraska or Georgia were infected. Even Liberia has a lower infection rate (2 health workers per patient in now the Texas rate). The protocols are adequate. It is the hospital that did a poor job following procedures and protocols that CDC had laid out and risked the health of the entire country. CDC said it may have gone better had they gone to Dallas right at the beginning to supervise the process. What they are "admitting" is that the people in Dallas were not competent.
My sister is a nurse and said the CDC guidelines and protocols were a joke.

Does every hospital have an infinite supply of hazmat suits for their workers ?
NO.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It would seem wise to restrict all persons leaving Dallas for the next 21 days.
They should extend it to 30. How long was the interval between this person contacting Duncan and getting sick?
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