Ebola in Our Midsts Part 2 (Israel, healthcare, borders, vs)

[GWhopper]

If I remember correctly, this virus has a 7 day ingest period before the symptoms begin to exist. 7 days in NYC, with all the business men and tourists flying out each day...let's just hope they are right when they say it is only spread by contact with bodily fluids and human waste. Though, still they may have to provide sanitation workers with Hazmet suits.

[gen811]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

Actually he followed the current international Doctors without Borders protocol which is self- monitoring during and 21 days following the last potential contact with bodily fluids of a maturing case of Ebola.

Per WHO it is said to be 42 days

As such it means 42 days is correct vs 21 days...
meaning we are screwed....

CDC and Doctors without borders drops the ball...

as per not airborne = actually airborne
because saliva, spit, sneeze, cough

sweat as well.

do not touch anyone with sweat.

actually do not touch the hand rails in subway stations anymore after this.

according to where he lives to the bowling alley he should be taking the most likely route of
A to L train. where he was most sick.
and back if he didn't take cabs.

Phew luckily I didn't tale the A/C or D trains recently.

I mostly take the 5/4/F trains for now...
Though I think I smelled vomit in one of the train stations... *yikes*
please note to not sit on the trains or touch anyone.

if it is crowded DO NOT GO IN ANYMORE.

we are packed like rats in there and with the disease like this it can easily spread.
if this doctor used the subway any time during rush hour WE ARE SO SCREWED he would have likely been crowded into people and his sweat would have likely came into contact with many people already.

this is one of the WORST places to have a high mortality disease.
-highly populated
-unsanitary
-crowded transportation-BAD MTA CUTTING SERVICE AND FORCED CROWDING.
-BAD MTA-cutting corners and corruption to save a few pennies-I do hope they hazmat those possible trains he used at least.
-CITY PUNISHES YOU FOR DRIVING-as a result Mr Spencer even though he is a doctor is forced to use public transportation and infect many in the process.
-Beggars everywhere in train stations thanks to wall street banksters - making it very dangerous now...Thanks wall street you made the situation worse...


anyway the city will go into massive standstill if they take those trains offline though.
A/C D lines are heavily used.

we need to know the trains he took now not later...

5/4 lines are also but MR Spencer likely didn't use them.
Wall street should rejoice as they take that one the most.

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Zapruder

Then how do you explain his public outing for hours then less than eight hours later he's being rushed by police escorted ambulance to the hospital with a 103 degree temperature to the hospital where later it's confirmed he has Ebola? That simply does not add up whatsoever if what you say is true.

Media is reporting he awoke with a fever, today and immediately self quarantined with his GF in his apartment.

[USAGeorge]

Self monitoring???? Sure,,like that works. Nurse fly Doc went bowling.....Seems like they take an "abundance of precaution" in tracking down where they went,who they came in contact with bla bla bla,,friggin bla.
How about an "Abundance of Caution " up front...like not direct flights for travel to the USA,a forced quarantine before getting on a plane...Now that would work and put the burden on the people who choose to go there....Sooner or later this reaction crap is going to fall apart.....
All this TV assurances driven by politics and the likes of the CDC is just more crap and nonsense. I'll tell you what,,If it was a Republican in office the song and dance teams selling this I'm ok,Don't worry crap would be singing a different tune.........and thats the truth.

[MrClose]

Ebola on dry surfaces, such as doorknobs and countertops, can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.

But if infected sweat, mucus or saliva gets on doorknobs or countertops, the Ebola virus can be spread “for several hours” by someone touching the surface and then touching their eyes, nose, mouth or an open cut. Presumably it can be spread by handshaking as well, if the infected person had gotten his saliva or mucus on his hands. Not terribly reassuring, sad to say.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...e-transmitted/

[LoveToRow]

This administration is gambling with the lives of Americans by playing politics.

If the Ebola outbreak were in Israel and not West Africa, is there any doubt that there would be a travel ban in place?

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

I have not read that he was ill Tuesday. And I agree that one would expect him to be more cautious. I think maybe these medical people think their space suits are better protection than they actually are.

Media reports he said he felt "sluggish" on Tuesday.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by treasurefinder

Now there you go making sense! It seems you need to be around someone near the end surges of Ebola to get it, but everyone is just going to ignore that

It sure seems odd that no one seems to know how they got it exactly:

Ebola survivor II, Nancy Writebol: 'We just don't even have a clue what happened' | Science/AAAS | News

I guess a doctor with his hands on an ebola patient is not too hard to imagine.

But Writebol said she was not really that close to it in terms of treating ebola patients.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by GWhopper

If I remember correctly, this virus has a 7 day ingest period before the symptoms begin to exist. 7 days in NYC, with all the business men and tourists flying out each day...let's just hope they are right when they say it is only spread by contact with bodily fluids and human waste. Though, still they may have to provide sanitation workers with Hazmet suits.

Nancy Writebol doesn't know how she got it, and although she was in country in the hot zone, sounds like she was not directly involved in patient care:

Ebola survivor II, Nancy Writebol: 'We just don't even have a clue what happened' | Science/AAAS | News

[gen811]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

It sure seems odd that no one seems to know how they got it exactly:

Ebola survivor II, Nancy Writebol: 'We just don't even have a clue what happened' | Science/AAAS | News

I guess a doctor with his hands on an ebola patient is not to hard to imagine.

But Writebol said she was not really that close to it in terms of treating ebola patients.

but because it is airborne...

the decontamination process would have likely put the particles of viruses in the air long enough to get onto her and infect her.

even the disinfector should wear the hazmat suits
just in case.

to hell with CDC saying it is not airborne.
it just has a low risk of airborne contraction

BUT IT IS STILL AIRBORNE.