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Old 10-23-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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You think VT is clean, I have to wonder what courses the Vick brothers were taking, particularly the younger Vick. If a university with North Carolina's credentials has an issue there are more, maybe this will be a wake up call.
In comparison to UNC, absolutely.
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Maybe it's time to end the charade. Let athletes go to college for sports. Why should we require that they take math, english and history?
Or forget the college education part altogether and just tell prospective athletes in high school, "Hey, you're a good player...want to go somewhere where you can just play ball and forget academics completely??"

[separate sports from academics entirely like church and state]
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Old 10-23-2014, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Well when you watch a post game interview and see these college graduates struggle to complete a basic sentence. You kind of wonder how much of that 4 year degree was about academics.
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:21 PM
 
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Well when you watch a post game interview and see these college graduates struggle to complete a basic sentence. You kind of wonder how much of that 4 year degree was about academics.
I like Div III college football which is mostly small, private colleges. The kids play the game for the love of the game, they get very little scholarship money. Many of them are there on academic scholarships. They play the game right, very few cheap shots, almost no showboating. Honor, respect for your opponents. Respect for the game.

I would much rather watch that than these clowns that can run the 40 yard dash a little faster but act like a complete idiot on the field and off the field. I don't even watch the NFL anymore, it's become a different game.
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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Yes - drop college sports as anything but student recreation and go back to actual academic pursuits. I agree emphatically.

Oh...
And stop stealing public money for stadiums.
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Old 10-23-2014, 09:11 PM
 
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I can almost BET this little scandal-story is repeated at just about every school with a
big-time sports setup.
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Old 10-23-2014, 09:44 PM
 
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What are you talking about? There are plenty of examples. Look at Percy Harvin. That guy is flat out nuts, even with all his talent he just got traded for nothing by probably the best coach in the league because he can't deal with him.

Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis...the list goes on and on. Gifted athletes, deeply flawed mentally.
Meh...so what.

What occupation is full of choirboys? Yours?

Come on...get real.
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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What are you talking about? There are plenty of examples. Look at Percy Harvin. That guy is flat out nuts, even with all his talent he just got traded for nothing by probably the best coach in the league because he can't deal with him.

Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis...the list goes on and on. Gifted athletes, deeply flawed mentally.
This link will show that the NFL arrest records on all crimes are well below the national average. Unfortunately in some cases you can take the man out of the hood but can't always take the hood out of the man.

The Rate of Domestic Violence Arrests Among NFL Players | FiveThirtyEight
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:28 AM
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Perhaps instead of calling this scandal a "student cheating scandal" It should classified as a "white collar, greedy administrator, immoral rich guy scandal" Take a look at the salaries of the people at the top. Just more corporate style greed and this too will be a yawn,
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Is it cheating when you do as you are instructed? Wouldn't this more accurately be fraud on the part of the college?
It is fraud in my view. The colleges make millions off of basketball and football. The players are supposed to get a college education in return. But the whole system is structured such that most of them won't get even that. Yeah the players are not being denied their education. But every skid is greased to make that the most likely path, and most likely outcome.

If one of those private, for-profit technical type schools had outcomes like this, the state atty gen would be having a talk with them.
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