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Old 11-24-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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that's the sort of behavior that will get you labeled a 'coward' by eric holder.
This discussion has nothing to do with Eric Holder.

I don't even know what Holder is up to. I'm concerned about trying to live MY life.
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Old 11-24-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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"White Police Officers Won't Be There If You Weren't Killing Each Other 70% Of The Time"

To be quite honest, Dyson is not the one killing other Black people. When someone tells me "if you wouldn't do this or that", I take it personal. I'm not the one perpetuating crimes and doing stupid stuff. Guliani could have said "police officers wouldn't have to work as hard if those thugs didn't murder each other".

When I say something, I assign blame to the actual persons responsible, the thugs who are committing crimes. There is no "you people" with me. It is "those specific thugs" who are responsible.
Really?

That's your response?

It's really cute how lefties color all groups with a single brush stroke except for the groups that they support (which are generally the trash).
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Old 11-24-2014, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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No one denied it was. And it is mostly the poor Black areas where this takes place. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about the kind of arrogance for which Giuliani was discussing it. He was discussing it as if he was unable to distinguish regular Black people from hood rats. How hard is that to understand? Or does no one really care?

And from what I've read and heard about certain parts of Appalachia, that isn't a place I would feel comfortable going to. Meth, oxycontin. Even Bill O'Reilly had some bad things to say about that place.
What are the murder rates in Appalachia? Isn't that what this is about?
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Old 11-24-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Really?

That's your response?

It's really cute how lefties color all groups with a single brush stroke except for the groups that they support (which are generally the trash).
1) When did I color all groups with the single brush?

2) You are doing the very same thing you claim to condemn when you make comments about "lefties". You assume I am a "lefty" because I disagree with the way Giuliani made his statement. And judging by the history of your posts, I wouldn't discuss "coloring all groups with a single brush" because you have done that. That statement of yours shows hypocrisy.

3) You have only shown you disagree with me. You haven't pointed out where I was wrong. If you can't do that, then this is my judgement on that: It is an inability to disagree in a civilized manner. It is an inability to think logically.
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Old 11-24-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Well, act like a white supremacist, people will call you out on it. Oh that Giuliani, you're "no altar boy".
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Old 11-24-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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The rate that African Americans kill each other is no greater than whites killing each other( rate,not pure numbers).
The most ridiculous and backwards thing I've read. A flat out lie.


500 blacks in Chicago alone were murdered last year. Please find a city anywhere in the Western Hemisphere where this is occurring even remotely close to that level.
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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Fireworks: Giuliani vs. Michael Eric Dyson: "White Police Officers Won't Be There If You Weren't Killing Each Other 70% Of The Time" | Video | RealClearPolitics

What Giuliani said is more or less correct. Of course I would never sell Michael Eric Dyson short on playing is (perpetual) race card.
Name calling? Really?

Is this the only defense this guy has against a logical point? Giuliani is not a white supremacist for pointing out the reality behind widely known crime stats.

This is absurd. What happens in black communities impacts us all, but facts can't be discussed by whites without them being called bigots, racists, or one of many other names.
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Even I barely pay attention to Michael Eric Dyson. At the end of the day, I'm concerned for me.

In my opinion, saying "you" in that context is still insulting. I assign blame to the actual individuals responsible. No reason the entire Black population should be held responsible for thugs. Those thugs don't listen to anyone, not even Black people.
Fair but here's the problem. Black activists use one off cases as a basis to condemn a whole group of people as well, cops. So people like Giuliani and frankly myself say not so fast. If Black people committed less crime there would be fewer incidents like this one.

If Mike Brown went to the stores and paid for cigarillos he'd be alive. If he followed a lawful command from an officer he'd be alive.
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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What are the murder rates in Appalachia? Isn't that what this is about?
Well, I have some data for Kentucky. In terms of murder, the highest murder rates are in the eastern part of the state. http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/pdf/cik_2009.pdf
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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Actually, what Giuliani said set a tone of arrogance. Why did he have to say "White police officers"? .
The same reason Wilson is always described as a white policeman
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