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I laugh my as* off when I hear this liberal defeatists (who actually support the submission of the lower classes and the concept of enlightened liberal elite rulers) rhetoric.
Such contentions, of course, are total BS. Beyond incidental events, the norm in the US seems to be elevation to a social and economic status beyond that of your parents. Beyond the advent of liberalism, this HAS BEEN the norm in US society.
Liberalism attempts to keep a large componant of society dependent and reliant upon the government, thus securing the power of a few elites in the federal government over the masses. Liberalism, of course, is akin to totalitarianism and opposes social and economic movement. The more poor/dependent citizens, the more democrat voters are created. Thus the goals of liberalism is to create more dependent citizens.
My father ran a paint store and my mother was a secretary. My brother, sister, and I are very well to do physicians ( No one in our family, since they arrived in American in 1632, had ever gone to college). My younger brother is a concert violinist. My older brother and I are millionaires many times over.
The notion that you cannot rise in US society is complete BS. If you have accepted the notion that there is no social/economic mobility, then you are already defeated and might as well give up.
I live a life that I never dreamed of when I was a poor, rug rat kid. I own a good deal of property and can buy whatever the hell I want, all due to the mobility offered in the US. Had I been born somewhere else, I would probably still be a bum.
While I sort of agree with you, is a society with a large population dependent upon government welfare capable of being socially mobile?
I think this guy is correct in saying social mobility is poor, but the issue is that his solution (welfare and such) contributes to that. Obviously that oversimplified, but still. The fewer people on welfare, the better off we all are.
I'd argue we have quite a lot in common with a feudal state. Serfs were more or less welfare dependent on whoever their land lord was. What's the difference?
And yes, obviously some work their way up. I know plenty of people who started with very little and worked their way into a lovely life. There is more social mobility now than in the middle ages, but there are striking similarities. I also think I should add that I'm not entirely against welfare. I know plenty of people who were on welfare for only a short time to get back on their feet, which is it's intended purpose. Some rely to heavily on it though, and that's the issue that needs addressing.
Ahh yes social mobility. The guys correct. the 1970's was the last time kids were almost guaranteed to be doing better then their parents. The times have changed.
median incomes have flatlined for the most part since mid 1970s.
I grew up lower working class, not in culture but in money terms. Now I am doing very well despite these liberals. Yes, according to liberals, it's just a dream. WRONG!
It took awhile with hard work. I know you liberals hate that (work word) but I did it.
Ahh yes social mobility. The guys correct. the 1970's was the last time kids were almost guaranteed to be doing better then their parents. The times have changed.
median incomes have flatlined for the most part since mid 1970s.
It coincides precisely with government interference in the economy and excessive regulation.
Ahh yes social mobility. The guys correct. the 1970's was the last time kids were almost guaranteed to be doing better then their parents. The times have changed.
median incomes have flatlined for the most part since mid 1970s.
Government only hinders your potential for prosperity. If you expect government to legislate your prosperity you are your own worst enemy.
I live a life that I never dreamed of when I was a poor, rug rat kid. I own a good deal of property and can buy whatever the hell I want, all due to the mobility offered in the US. Had I been born somewhere else, I would probably still be a bum.
I laugh my as* off when I hear this liberal defeatists (who actually support the submission of the lower classes and the concept of enlightened liberal elite rulers) rhetoric.
Such contentions, of course, are total BS. Beyond incidental events, the norm in the US seems to be elevation to a social and economic status beyond that of your parents. Beyond the advent of liberalism, this HAS BEEN the norm in US society.
Liberalism attempts to keep a large componant of society dependent and reliant upon the government, thus securing the power of a few elites in the federal government over the masses. Liberalism, of course, is akin to totalitarianism and opposes social and economic movement. The more poor/dependent citizens, the more democrat voters are created. Thus the goals of liberalism is to create more dependent citizens.
My father ran a paint store and my mother was a secretary. My brother, sister, and I are very well to do physicians ( No one in our family, since they arrived in American in 1632, had ever gone to college). My younger brother is a concert violinist. My older brother and I are millionaires many times over.
The notion that you cannot rise in US society is complete BS. If you have accepted the notion that there is no social/economic mobility, then you are already defeated and might as well give up.
I live a life that I never dreamed of when I was a poor, rug rat kid. I own a good deal of property and can buy whatever the hell I want, all due to the mobility offered in the US. Had I been born somewhere else, I would probably still be a bum.
That was then, and that was you. Circumstances differ from generation to generation, family to family, and region to region. Nothing is ever static and everything always changes.
The only thing that keeps the American Dream going is regulation. Regulation ended serfdom in Europe, and lack of regulation has allowed serfdom to fester here. if you were 20 right now, your story would probably be much different.
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