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Old 12-11-2014, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They are not the same exact locations, with much different use zoning restrictions. A Christian Church would also have to file for the same variance of zoning codes.


Kind like your apartment is different than my house.
What specifically is different about the two commercial zones? Does this strip mall specifically say no Mosques or something? If they cannot prove what specific zoning restrictions they are referring to, then they are more than likely lying.

Also, what is different about two identical strip malls with their zoning. My house probably has a similar zoning compared to your house. That would be like saying these two houses are identical, but the zoning is completely different so you can only live in one of the two houses.

Maybe the Mosque should try to open up in the same strip mall the Christian Church opened up in.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Actually MY STATES Constitution, strengthens it. Defining what the state can and cannot do, to the people.
My state constitution, along with Georgia's constitution, had to pass the muster with the federal government, after reconstruction of the south. Even federally appointed(federal reconstruction) carpetbagger Governor Davis of Texas, outlawed all guns outside of your home. It passed the muster, with the federal government until the Democrats won back the state in the next elections, and made it so the Texas legislature decide if it was to be open carry or concealed carry, or both, but not deny anyone from being protected. They took that and made carrying a pistol a privilege, that must be concealed and not a 2nd amendment right, that shall not be infringed.
Okay. Whatever.

Your response has nothing to do with this thread. This is about freedom of religion, not gun control. And the First Amendment is about protecting the rights of the individual and minorities against the bullying of the crowd and the majority. So if your town's majority wants to stop an individual or minority from exercising their freedom of religion, they are out of luck. The state's constitution is irrelevant to the matter. The US Constitution, and notably the First Amendment, protects the individual/minority from that majority. And no state constitution can intercede.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If the mosque opened, it would probably be fire bombed anyway.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:43 PM
 
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There are thousands of exceptions to liberties under the bill of rights. If anything deserves an exception it's the free exercise clause and islam has certainly earned itself one.
Says you.

Too bad you're wrong.

Islam hasn't earned itself any such exception.

Extremists may have done so. But there is no evidence that the Muslims in Kennesaw are extremists.

Please save us your blind hatred and assertion that all Muslims are extremists. That's untrue.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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How many bad things have come out of the other 2100+ mosques in this country?
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:51 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Kennesaw city council weren't even smart enough to hold on to that pathetic fig leaf:



There's historic precedence for that sentiment.

They are not the same exact locations, with much different use zoning restrictions. A Christian Church would also have to file for the same variance of zoning codes.


Kind like your apartment is different than my house.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:58 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What specifically is different about the two commercial zones? Does this strip mall specifically say no Mosques or something? If they cannot prove what specific zoning restrictions they are referring to, then they are more than likely lying.

Also, what is different about two identical strip malls with their zoning. My house probably has a similar zoning compared to your house. That would be like saying these two houses are identical, but the zoning is completely different so you can only live in one of the two houses.

Maybe the Mosque should try to open up in the same strip mall the Christian Church opened up in.

Cities and towns have a planning and zoning committee just for zoning and usage, as they plan the use of every property the corporation of Kennesaw owns and taxes to occupy that incorporated property.

The Supreme Court has recently ruled that corporations are private people. (which sets a dangerous precedent, to use here)
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Old 12-11-2014, 04:03 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Okay. Whatever.

Your response has nothing to do with this thread.

It by no means was off topic. LOL!
Why do states have constitutions, if the US Constitution is the law of the land?
Then staring us all in the face is this big word that everyone is trying to redefine.... CONGRESS shall make no law.
Congress didn't make a law, so legally it cannot be unconstitutional.
Then it would also be said, it would be unconstitutional for congress not to make a law if needed.

The States Constitution, is more defining, and could be said it may violate the states constitution, but not the US Constitution.
It would be up to the States Supreme Court.
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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They are not the same exact locations, with much different use zoning restrictions.
Do you have any evidence of this, or are you writing free verse? And what's with the hiding behind technicalities? No longer the PEOPLE deciding they could shun Muslims?

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Kind like your apartment is different than my house.
As if you hadn't already delivered evidence that your reasoning is based on flimsy assumptions.
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:26 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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That is quite possibly the most ridiculous, un-American, anti-liberty thing I've ever heard.
How is banning a political group based on overthrowing governments, stoning women, killing people who leave the "religion", killing/imprisoning gays, and hacking people's heads off more unamerican than, say, searching my car without a warrant or having the government throw me out of my house so a private developer can build a mall there?
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