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Old 12-10-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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The costs of opting out of the work force can be long term. Women don't lose just their wages when they aren't working. Their skills get stale and the don't progress in their careers they don't contribute to pensions, 401K's and other retirement plans. You are right. For many even if day care were break even they come out ahead in the long run if they stay in the work force.
The women here have extremely generous maternity leaves (one year), but then they go back to work.
Daycare is a mere $35 a week.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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Once the wealthiest nation in the world, America has now become a welfare country.

That's what is having a negative impact on America.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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The obvious answer is that approximately 50% of the jobs "disappeared" (ie,
we're filled by women.)
But women only do the jobs men wont or don't want to do.

How many jobs disappeared after NAFTA (outsourcing) and the influx of illegal immigration?

So basically you are saying that when more women entered the workforce (1980), not that women have not always been in the workforce, one half of the male workers were replaced by women. Are there statistics showing that there is 50% less men making up the total workforce since 1980?



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Wages have been decreasing since early 1980's relative to inflation. I do find
it interesting that wage deflation seemed to occur as there were more women
entering the workforce. ...
No they haven't. The average national wage has steadily increased since 1980. There has been a marked decrease in the annual percentage of change since 2008.

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Old 12-10-2014, 11:34 AM
 
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The most negative impacts on society are:

1) Entitlement minded
2) Welfare
2) Dead Beat Dads
3) Breeders
4) Liberalism
5) Liberal Democrats
6) Grubers (uneducated people)
7) Financially ignorant people
8) Racism against whites
9) Racism against blacks
10) Policians
11) Grubers who think they have a right to other people's money

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Old 12-10-2014, 09:02 PM
 
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Yeah, it mainly sucks having a women as your direct supervisor.

Not saying SOME women can't do OK in a position of power. But most of the ones I have dealt with.....not good.
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Montréal & New York area
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The women here have extremely generous maternity leaves (one year), but then they go back to work.
Daycare is a mere $35 a week.
Lucky... I love Canada
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:09 AM
 
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The most negative impacts on society are:

1) Entitlement minded
2) Welfare
2) Dead Beat Dads
3) Breeders
4) Liberalism
5) Liberal Democrats
6) Grubers (uneducated people)
7) Financially ignorant people
8) Racism against whites
9) Racism against blacks
10) Policians
11) Grubers who think they have a right to other people's money
This is more like it. Although I'm not up to speed on the whole Gruber thing.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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For a couple of glorious years when I was about 10 years old I lived in a two income family. I had a lot of fun with a machine shop (I learned how to use most machine tools when I was nine) making things like motorized bicycles and both solid and liquid fueled rocket motors. It was nirvana. Tools and no parents or bosses around to spoil the fun.

I think adding women to the workforce dropped wages for all workers. Just more people for fewer jobs.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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Except in extreme cases, both parents don't "need" to work.

They feel they both "have" to work to finance their smart phones, multiple cars, destination vacations, sports/music/etc lessons, latest fashions, and the like.
Do you know what year it is? Do you know that incomes have not risen but everything else has? Yes as a matter of fact, yes both parents NEED to work to pay that mortage, pay those bills, feed their family, etc. Of my friends who have kids, all of them work, both partners. They have to otherwise they'd be on the streets. This isn't 1950 with the gold plated watch & the impressive salary that allows one partner to stay home, the house, the kids, the car, the dog. Talk about being nostalgic for something that isn't realistic whatsoever.
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Old 12-11-2014, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Austin
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If the requirements for healthy diet in the public schools system isn't up to par I don't know what is. Children now get two free meals at school which are probably more nutritious than what some children get at home with mom and what is to say that working mothers do not cook a healthy meal at home. I think the factor in diet is more the amount of sugars and processed foods we eat today which most likely would be consumed mom working or not.
Few men and women know how to cook basic, fresh food, 2mares. I was one of them. My mom was an awesome cook and I eschewed her lessons because I was a feminist who was going to be a career woman and didn't need to learn "women's jobs". I was a dumb ass. I didn't take her up on basic cooking lessons until many years later in my life.

Mothers typically teach our children how to eat, right or wrong. Some of us (me) didn't appreciate that for too many years, but did eventually learn. I appreciate what she taught me and so did my kids as some don't have the skills now! Maybe they, too, will learn and appreciate this simple, healthy, very economical skill someday. I'm willing to teach 'em just like my mom was.

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