McWorker move over..kiosks being deployed at McD's (economy, state, 2014)

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by Ih2puo

Pay the cooks $15 an hour and your fries will be hot!

No way. We now have many Illegals who will do it for half that amount.

You want $15? Ought to shut down that Border.

[greywar]

Originally Posted by Mircea

Neither.

You simply have to change the way you live.

Yes because with $0 income you can live. Oh wait...no you can't. You're confusing your desire to pay people $1/hr with the reality of no jobs at any price per hour.

It's an appropriate remark for people who just can't wrap their brains around reality.

It's even more appropriate for the "entitlement crowd."

We are discussing reality here. You are ignoring it.

Just like the dot.coms did....

Mircea

LOL. you're confusing a hardware based reality with a theoretical software revolution-that did occur, but not to the extent expected.

[greywar]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

I don't think so. Customization is more labor intensive. Burger King has always been " your way". Machines cook the meat but it takes a human to extra mayo, sans pickles or whatever.

This McDonalds thing seems to be more about an attempt to compete with sit down franchise/ corporate- owned restaurants than job elimination.

Again, the majority of their US business is drive- thru and not conducive to waiting for a custom order.

My gut says the concept is not going to work in the US. The drive though is too ingrained and the sit down competition too stiff.

I'm thinking it's more likely, down the road , to use an app to order and pay.

Wow. you have missed the existing technology thats been demonstrated repeatedly, that adds extra mayo, sans pickles, etc. Heck they even vary the cook times, burger thickness everything.

[green_mariner]

Neither.

You simply have to change the way you live.

How? The USA is too expensive to live off of minimum wage without living in poor living conditions. And that is assuming we keep minimum wage laws. Go below that and then there will be even more problems.

[greywar]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

How? The USA is too expensive to live off of minimum wage without living in poor living conditions. And that is assuming we keep minimum wage laws. Go below that and then there will be even more problems.

You've missed his idea that everyone should live in large group homes, eating bread and water,and sharing a bathroom? Mircea posts about it pretty regularly.

Meanwhile of course the rich will continue to live in ever increasing opulence. LOL. Mircea actually believe this will work out well.

[Three Wolves In Snow]

Originally Posted by greywar

Yes because with $0 income you can live. Oh wait...no you can't. You're confusing your desire to pay people $1/hr with the reality of no jobs at any price per hour.


We are discussing reality here. You are ignoring it.

LOL. you're confusing a hardware based reality with a theoretical software revolution-that did occur, but not to the extent expected.

You continue to fail to understand. The more you sit here and spit about it, the less time you spend learning, and when reality hits you in the face, it's going to be hard, and you're going to look back and remember what you were told. Of course, knowing you, you will STILL blame it on anyone else but you.

Change the way you live. In other words, stop spending money on crap you don't need. You do not need a cell phone with a 2 year plan and unlimited data. You do not need a big screen television. You do not need the latest Xbox or PS that comes out. You do not need to go out to dinner every single weekend. You do not need the nicest car, or the newest car. You do not need to live in a grand apartment, condo, or house with so much space that you just buy more crap to fill it up. You do not need new clothes every month. You do not need to download all those songs off of iTunes, or buy all of those movies from Amazon Prime, or keep your Netflix membership. You do not need to spend a boat load of money at the grocery store. You do not need to have a beer "with the guys" every week. You do not need whatever latest gadget comes out.

Etc. Etc.

Being told to "change the way you live" is warning you to learn how to live without all of that. It's warning you to save your money...now would be a good time to start. It's telling you that you don't need to be a slave to consumerism to survive, and really, if anyone cares that you don't have the latest and greatest, those are not people you need to bother with.

It's tell you to find other ways to do things. I believe some examples mentioned were how you can buy a dish rag and use it repeatedly to clean your counter tops, or you can waste your money on Clorox Wipes. I get it, they smell fantastic and do a great job...but if you are bitching and moaning about not having any money, then you don't need those Clorox Wipes.

You can get a pay as you go phone since you "only need it for emergencies".

You can get a used car, if you don't have a bus system or train system or subway system....or, you know, move closer to work and walk.

You can get rid of your television. You're paying to watch cable...it's the biggest rip off around.

You can get rid of 120 Mbps d/l speed and opt for the less expensive 20Mbps d/l speed...you will survive.

You can learn how to budget your money at the store so that you can live on much less than you think you can. You really don't need a steak each week. Of course it tastes good, but if you are bitching about money, you should probably opt for something cheaper.

You believe that you are entitled to live in the lap of luxury...and our "comfy" life, IS luxury, especially when you look at how others in this world live.

You do not need $15/hour to survive. One, it will just drive prices up, as it has in the past, every single time minimum wage has gone up, and you're right back where you started. Two, IF YOU CHANGE HOW YOU LIVE, you can EASILY live off of current minimum wage.

You just don't want to be inconvenienced in the slightest. OH WELL! Boo Hoo! Get over it.

Get a roommate, cut down your expenses, learn how to do things the old way instead of the disposable way. Learn how to budget. Get off of your high horse - you are not entitled to an easy, comfy life. You are simply entitled to a life. You have the right to PURSUE happiness, but no one OWES it to you.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

How? The USA is too expensive to live off of minimum wage without living in poor living conditions. And that is assuming we keep minimum wage laws. Go below that and then there will be even more problems.

How does making it more expensive for people to live while making it harder for others to even find a job, create an enviornment thtas better?

[Se7ski]

Cool! Kiosk + Robo-Cook = awesome!
Robo-cook: android restaurant boots up in China

But only if it's real food. I've never been to a McDonald's but I have read articles about what they call food. That's definitely not what I call food. But I would like to see this happening in real restaurants and cafes.
Well, for really excellent food, forget the Robo-Cooks. Food prep is an art.

About the economic issues - it's just happening. More fast-food restaurants will be turning to automation and a lot of jobs will be lost. Even more as other companies turn to high-tech solutions. But those companies/corporations can't survive if there aren't enough people with money to spend. If they want those profits, they WILL have to create solutions for the loss of those jobs.
Also, the loss of jobs and income will lead to more civil unrest, riots, and destruction of property and infrastructure as poverty increases.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Se7ski

Cool! Kiosk + Robo-Cook = awesome!
Robo-cook: android restaurant boots up in China

But only if it's real food. I've never been to a McDonald's but I have read articles about what they call food. That's definitely not what I call food. But I would like to see this happening in real restaurants and cafes.
Well, for really excellent food, forget the Robo-Cooks. Food prep is an art.

About the economic issues - it's just happening. More fast-food restaurants will be turning to automation and a lot of jobs will be lost. Even more as other companies turn to high-tech solutions. But those companies/corporations can't survive if there aren't enough people with money to spend. If they want those profits, they WILL have to create solutions for the loss of those jobs.
Also, the loss of jobs and income will lead to more civil unrest, riots, and destruction of property and infrastructure as poverty increases.

No they don't. This is a GLOBAL economy now..they'll just look to other countries with a growing middle class.
The people here will turn to the government and it's social welfare programs. They will still have their spending money via the social welfare programs. Why just look at all the "stuff" an EBT card can buy today.

[bobtn]

It was just a matter of when, not if, technological progress would take fast food to this level.