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Old 12-09-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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Very sad that my dreams are bursting away.

I thought the day Internet was accessible with free public wifi at airports and coffee hubs like Starbucks, voluntary worker unions (construction workers, chimney sweeps, carpenters, glass manufacturers, historians, bookwriters and bloggers, artisans, musicians)

Would use skype and Google hangout to form plans to gather info from each their own backyard to combine innovative thoughts and ideas to transmit across peoples whose national boundaries otherwuse restrict them...

Enabling a new level of non-monetary wealth of human capability at the Proletariat level, but sadly I am not seeing enough of this.

Or even imagine employees in companies who form unions and restructure the way their businesses operate, creating new power from the bottom to the top....a whole new hierarchy...revolutionary

So that the distribution of true wealth and power isn't in these big shots like Obama and Rush Limbaugh and Al Sharpton and Glenn Beck and Nancy Pelosi and Walker from Wisconsin, but everyday folks like you and me!

 
Old 12-09-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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I have a vision...

A vision that those people on the streets of Staten Island and Fergusson, Missouri are our brothers and sisters! We are English-speaking Americans! We are little people! We are on the same team!

We have access to smart phone cameras but also public wifi and hence all of the internet wikipedia and GPS! We can do something with this! We can form
Unions with people like us in the rest of the world and we can form unions of mutual understanding where there are Justice to react when injustice occurs in say Fergusson or Staten Island


We can have a sort of Union of distraught Americans and we can work together in and beyond our national boundaries. It's not like a whole people who have fought prejudice for 300 years survived this struggle unnoticed. They aren't lazy, they are facing challenges every day. These challenges can be solved not by President Obama but can be solved directly by you and me. The first step is recognizing that if you love America, these people in Fergusson are your own brothers and sisters on the front lines of Justice. They are not animals, they are part of our GDP per capita

We have direction...and we can demand in a nation tolerant enough to the rights in Fergusson and Staten Island, so should extend to Bill Cosby burden of proof threshold
 
Old 12-09-2014, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Spokane, WA
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Do the weed smoking shiftless layabouts you normally converse with think this kind of trifle is intellectual?
 
Old 12-09-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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The bottom line with types like the OP is trying to get something for nothing.

He lives in an imaginary utopia.

Life and its harsh realities hasn't slapped him across the face yet.

Or he is trolling.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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Not quite. There's an overstated respect for certain groups of people in America and the work they do, and underestimation of the work of the proletariat.

It's because of this that our country is filled with chain stores and chain banks and top 40 songs that all sound pretty much alike. Because the powers that be discourage progress and life improvement. They only want us to be robots. They put all money into healthcare but why does our health matter if we don't do anything with our lives but invest in healthcare?
The real fix for your bad healthcare is in your hands...it costs $0.00... It's called "cardiovascular fitness"...it's called getting on your feet and innovating with the technology and space you take for granted.

There is nothing so harsh and overly important...no life work takes priority over time for the working under-acknowledged working people to form a United front and innovate on their own terms....and get off the treadmill.

If we aren't living for progress, what are we doing here? That's the ultimate question.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Originally Posted by Ericthebean View Post
Very sad that my dreams are bursting away.

I thought the day Internet was accessible with free public wifi at airports and coffee hubs like Starbucks, voluntary worker unions (construction workers, chimney sweeps, carpenters, glass manufacturers, historians, bookwriters and bloggers, artisans, musicians)

Would use skype and Google hangout to form plans to gather info from each their own backyard to combine innovative thoughts and ideas to transmit across peoples whose national boundaries otherwuse restrict them...

Enabling a new level of non-monetary wealth of human capability at the Proletariat level, but sadly I am not seeing enough of this.

Or even imagine employees in companies who form unions and restructure the way their businesses operate, creating new power from the bottom to the top....a whole new hierarchy...revolutionary

So that the distribution of true wealth and power isn't in these big shots like Obama and Rush Limbaugh and Al Sharpton and Glenn Beck and Nancy Pelosi and Walker from Wisconsin, but everyday folks like you and me!
Most people are too busy with earning a living and living their lives to worry about a coffee house bit*h fest. There's always Democratic Underground if you want to listen to whiners complain.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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Because there is a massive surplus of labor and extremely mobile capital.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Do the weed smoking shiftless layabouts you normally converse with think this kind of trifle is intellectual?
Boy you nailed it. This sounds like the same drivel I would hear when I was younger, living in Seattle, and agreed to attend someone's house party. God what bores. And it looks like the OP learned a new word, and is throwing it out in an effort to look intellectual. Too bad he doesn't seem to fully understand what it means.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ericthebean View Post
Not quite. There's an overstated respect for certain groups of people in America and the work they do, and underestimation of the work of the proletariat.

It's because of this that our country is filled with chain stores and chain banks and top 40 songs that all sound pretty much alike. Because the powers that be discourage progress and life improvement. They only want us to be robots. They put all money into healthcare but why does our health matter if we don't do anything with our lives but invest in healthcare?
The real fix for your bad healthcare is in your hands...it costs $0.00... It's called "cardiovascular fitness"...it's called getting on your feet and innovating with the technology and space you take for granted.

There is nothing so harsh and overly important...no life work takes priority over time for the working under-acknowledged working people to form a United front and innovate on their own terms....and get off the treadmill.

If we aren't living for progress, what are we doing here? That's the ultimate question.
Every proletariat uprising/movement ever did exactly three things:
  1. Killed the existing bourgeoisie
  2. Became the new bourgeoisie
  3. Killed every intellectual and artist within their own ranks to make sure nobody got the same "kill the bourgeoisie" idea in their heads.
Go read a history book and understand human nature regarding power. Let your coffee house proletariat rise up and remake things, and all we did is swap out experienced tyrants for knucklehead tyrants with art degrees.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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Every proletariat uprising/movement ever did exactly three things:
  1. Killed the existing bourgeoisie
  2. Became the new bourgeoisie
  3. Killed every intellectual and artist within their own ranks to make sure nobody got the same "kill the bourgeoisie" idea in their heads.
Go read a history book and understand human nature regarding power. Let your coffee house proletariat rise up and remake things, and all we did is swap out experienced tyrants for knucklehead tyrants with art degrees.
The American progressive movement has made significant progress in the last 150 years without following this pattern.
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