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Old 12-11-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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But as you saw last time, they obviously didnt learn( by your own standard)





You are debating within your own head because i didnt address you once on the actual spending.

Im debating you on blame.
When you keep running out of money obviously you didn't learn from the last time you ran out of money
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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Instead of pointing out the REAL ISSUE of out of control government spending Democrats and Liberal Media would rather divert our attention away by playing the blame game. Hear this! Big government (both sides) are to blame. And until we stop letting others to divert attention away from the REAL ISSUE of out of control government spending we'll be in the same place come October, wash and repeat. How many times has this happened during the Obama administration.... rinse and repeat!

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Old 12-11-2014, 02:20 PM
 
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The government looks at the American people as the piggy bank just like they did in 2008 when the tax payer bailed out the big banks. If anyone naively believes that government is only going after the rich guy you are a naive fool. Oh they won't be as overt, they'll disguise it just as a scammer will smile in your face as they rob you. Everyone who gets an income (no matter what type) is in the government bullseye.
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:21 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The last time we "ran out of money", the House passed a funding resolution which then bogged down in the Senate - which was controlled by the Democrats. The Senate has to pass the bill for it to get to the President's desk, so yeah, the Democrats were the problem.

This time is a bit different, and quite frankly I blame both sides for the stupidity. Neither side knows what a real budget is, nor do they have any real desire to fix the problems that are currently plaguing our country. However, the fact that I place a share of the blame on both sides doesn't negate the fact that you specifically blame Republicans and have, so far, given the Democrats a pass on what is obviously a shared blame situation.
Both times, Republicans tried to pass a bill that they knew would not pass the senate or that they knew no deomcrat would vote for.

They purposefully caused a shut down. Thats why I dont blame Democrats. 3 days ago, this bill would have passed even with those 86 republicans voting no.

Then we heard what was in it and what was attached to it and they lost not only Democratic votes, but many of their own Republican votes.

Thats not something you can blame on both sides.

Thats like blaming the hostage for not cooperating.
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:25 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Don't know why the libs are not fully behind this.....ACA funded, illegal amnesty...funded. Lots of pork for good old Harry and his mafia supporters in Lost Vegas.
Have yet to meet a single liberal in favor of Amnesty let alone anyone in congress.
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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Both times, Republicans tried to pass a bill that they knew would not pass the senate or that they knew no deomcrat would vote for.

They purposefully caused a shut down. Thats why I dont blame Democrats. 3 days ago, this bill would have passed even with those 86 republicans voting no.

Then we heard what was in it and what was attached to it and they lost not only Democratic votes, but many of their own Republican votes.

Thats not something you can blame on both sides.

Thats like blaming the hostage for not cooperating.

You better read up instead of listening to liberals. Here is one example

It was defeated 2-413, following a pattern seen in recent years in House votes to overwhelmingly reject Obama's budget proposals.

I'll bet the 2 who voted for Obama's budget proposal was Reid and Pelosi.

Now can we get past this partisan BS and get to the REAL ISSUE? OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT SPENDING
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:28 PM
 
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REAL ISSUE of out of control government spending
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You better read up instead of listening to liberals. Here is one example

It was defeated 2-413, following a pattern seen in recent years in House votes to overwhelmingly reject Obama's budget proposals.

I'll bet the 2 who voted for Obama's budget proposal was Reid and Pelosi.

Now can we get past this partisan BS and get to the REAL ISSUE? OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT SPENDING
How would Reid vote for a House bill? He is in the Senate.

So did the Republicans you support vote for or against this bloated Republican budget bill?
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Which doesnt change the fact that Republicans are in the majority.




Republicans sabotaged their own bill from both sides.

You are the Gruber's target market.

Republicans won't be the majority, until January next year.
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There are 234 Republicans in the House of Representatives. So who else would be responsible for that shut down ????????

The whip count says they need 70 Democratic votes to pass this bill, that means about 86 republicans are going to vote no.


So who else would be responsible for that shut down ????????

Will it pass Harry Reid's muster? LOL!!
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