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Everything happened way too fast. Here's what I saw:
1. Police pull a car over without a legitimate complaint.
2. A 76 yo man gets out of his car - likely because he has no priors and isn't familiar with police protocol.
3. The officer issues a complaint without any formal discussion of the pending charge against the alleged suspect.
4. The provocative lack of a formal discussion leads to misunderstandings.
5. In response, the officer endangers the life of an elderly - and possibly innocent - suspect over a minor traffic issue.
Many 70+ yo people have serious medical issues. That officer was lucky that senior citizen didn't have cardiac arrest or stroke when he slammed him onto the pavement.
Officers need to understand the people they deal with. Elderly people can't always be expected to behave in a totally rational way and the officer shoulda known that.
Also, an unarmed 70 yo+ man is no threat to anyone. So even if the senior citizen refused a formal discussion, the officer shoulda called for backup to assist with the conversation.
Btw, I wouldn't really call that gangsta rap - way too mellow. More like a rap / Jason Safi style... just saying.
But yeah, not cool to max the stereo while dealing with a possible suspect. Way too distracting.
My question is (in their own words) why was the suspect in a "scuffle" with the officer. He shouldn't have been combative in any way if he wanted to maintain his innocence.
Sounds like the truth is more like 'you listen here young man, I'm 76 years old'.......
Guess what gramp's...
Don't care.....stop resisting!
Oh my! I just KNEW someone would go here with this. In the first place, a cop just can't descend on you, out of the blue, and command you to do anything. I would have told this cop to **** off myself. Resisting? Resisting what? Harassment? Last I checked, tthats legal. There is a law , in NV anyway, and thisis TX, but anyway, this law states that a citizen has a RIGHT,go resist an "unlawful arrest",.or any police overstepping of authority i. e. we don't have "stop and frisk".
Way I see it, a cop better bloody well have a REAL and JUSTIFIED , reason to be issuing me "commands". I don't recognize any intristic authority simply because of a badge and gun. Minding your own business and carrying out your day is not a good reason to be detained and subsequently Tazed, beat up, cuffed and stuffed etc, because some cop thinks he's got a right to grab you be cause he doesn't like your t shirt.
In this case, I would have "resisted" as well. Vehemently! Some cop just walks up , demands ID, and starts giving order , out of his posterior, I think I'm subject to question his authority to do so. This belief that we just have to jump like fleas in a skillet when cops give "orders", just because they are cops, is just plain nonsense!
Everything happened way too fast. Here's what I saw:
1. Police pull a car over without a legitimate complaint.
2. A 76 yo man gets out of his car - likely because he has no priors and isn't familiar with police protocol.
3. The officer issues a complaint without any formal discussion of the pending charge against the alleged suspect.
4. The provocative lack of a formal discussion leads to misunderstandings. 5. In response, the officer endangers the life of an elderly - and possibly innocent - suspect over a minor traffic issue.
Many 70+ yo people have serious medical issues. That officer was lucky that senior citizen didn't have cardiac arrest or stroke when he slammed him onto the pavement.
Officers need to understand the people they deal with. Elderly people can't always be expected to behave in a totally rational way and the officer shoulda known that.
Also, an unarmed 70 yo+ man is no threat to anyone. So even if the senior citizen refused a formal discussion, the officer shoulda called for backup to assist with the conversation.
Btw, I wouldn't really call that gangsta rap - way too mellow. More like a rap / Jason Safi style... just saying.
But yeah, not cool to max the stereo while dealing with a possible suspect. Way too distracting.
Right on all accounts especially the medical related ones. As far as I'm concerned this could easily be elderly abuse. The old man could be anybodies grand parent. Hopefully the the young immature cop, at the very least is sent to training on how to deal with the elderly.
Craig ( Victoria Police Chief Jeffrey "J.J." Craig ) later apologized to Vasquez.
"Public trust is extremely important to us," Craig said, according to the Advocate. "Sometimes that means you have to take a real hard look at some of the actions that occur within the department."
If only all police departments would admit wrong when they are in the wrong there wouldn't be as much mistrust.
Right on all accounts especially the medical related ones. As far as I'm concerned this could easily be elderly abuse. The old man could be anybodies grand parent. Hopefully the the young immature cop, at the very least is sent to training on how to deal with the elderly.
Elder abuse is typically related to caregivers....kinda like if a cop grabs your kid it might be unlawful but it's not "child abuse".
Right on all accounts especially the medical related ones. As far as I'm concerned this could easily be elderly abuse. The old man could be anybodies grand parent. Hopefully the the young immature cop, at the very least is sent to training on how to deal with the elderly.
Schools do offer courses in Senior Care so I think the real issue here is the Police Department's qualification standards for recruits. One of my relatives has a degree in Law Enforcement from an accredited University and the curriculum did include courses in psychology.
But hey, a lot of it's just common knowledge. I'm not a police officer - I'll probaly major in Physics - but I've been around my grandparents enough to know that they usually have more defensive attitudes about life. But it's not something I can't deal with so the police should be able to deal with it too.
Btw, this is another example of the police abusing the elderly. It happened 5 years ago and the "suspect" was an 86 yo woman in bed being fed oxygen through a tube and in her own house. Taser-shocked granny settles suit with El Reno | News OK
I mean, really? She didn't commit any crime and she couldn't even get out of bed but they tazed her.
The message I'm getting is this: If your grandparents have health issues, DON'T call 911. Just call the hospital and tell them to send help.
My question is (in their own words) why was the suspect in a "scuffle" with the officer. He shouldn't have been combative in any way if he wanted to maintain his innocence.
Sounds like the truth is more like 'you listen here young man, I'm 76 years old'.......
Guess what gramp's...
Don't care.....stop resisting!
OK, I understand. You really love people who abuse their power.
What?? Why would he use a stun gun or beat him for an inspection sticker. He had no right. Can't these cops go after the real criminals. Is there a quota for them or something.
Yes, they do have a quota.
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