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Old 12-17-2014, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Anytime you draw a line in the sand and then back down your credibility suffers. It works that way if you are a government, a company, or a parent.
We drew a line in the sand with Cuba back in 1961. The sands of time have shifted over the last 55 years.
That line no longer exists.
The sands of time are always shifting.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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more died in hope of freedom- treasure what we have/ and don't abuse it
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:46 PM
 
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Better vacation spot.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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There was a lot more to the release of the American prisoner this morning than met the eye. It is apparently part of a move on both sides to normalize US-Cuba relations including establishing embassies. It's about time.

AP Sources: US, Cuba Seek to Normalize Relations - ABC News
Apparently, the communist tyrants need be subsidized and Obama's determined to assist them in retaining their tyranny.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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Well looks like he's going to do all the damage he can before leaving office , be interesting to see who he's
Going to pardon before he leaves too.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Well looks like he's going to do all the damage he can before leaving office , be interesting to see who he's
Going to pardon before he leaves too.
Yeah, normalizing relations with Cuba, just like every other nation no earth, including all of our allies, is just terrible. What a blow to whatever it is you think Cuban sanctions are supposed to represent.
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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Finally, the silly policy towards Cuba is starting to unwind. Let it all unwind and normalize all commercial diplomatic and travel ties with Cuba. That will bring about a faster change in Cuba than any of the backwards ideas that were adopted over 50 years ago.

Anyone who knows how communism in eastern Europe and the USSR collapsed knows that a lot of it was due to the increase in contact and information between east and west in the 1980s.

Let's close the Guantanamo prison once and for all and give the entire Navy base back to Cuba. There is no real need for that base anyways, and it will save US taxpayers hundreds of millions per year. US closed all military bases in Puerto Rico except for some small reserve and national guard training posts because they didn't serve any important military purpose. If we don't need a base in Puerto Rico, which is US territory, we don't need a base in Cuba.

I think I'll take a trip to Cuba next spring before the great US commercial invasion begins.
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:06 PM
 
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This "line" is 54 years old and nobody can even see it any longer. All it has done is hurt the Cuban people--not Castro. I've never seen happier people than the Miami Cubans on the local news--some are ecstatic. Who is this line supposed to be for? Krushchev?
Standing up for democracy is oh so outdated.
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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Standing up for democracy is oh so outdated.
lol

Trying to win the Razzie for worst acting?
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Standing up for democracy is oh so outdated.
Please. How is anything you have promoted "standing up for democracy?" You mean like the democracy we have brought to the middle east?

Besides, I thought the great Reagan won the cold war and defeated communism. How did he miss a little island 90 miles off of our shores? And why didn't Bush/Cheney take out the next-door-neighbor-dictator while they were eliminating the axis of evil and ridding the world of dictators? Not enough oil in Cuba or what?
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