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Old 01-07-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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...and then we will hear all about "but...but... not ALL Muslims are like this... the vast majority ARE peaceful..." which is true except for the one's who are not.
Right....so what is your point?

 
Old 01-07-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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Apologists and deniers please read...

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The conquest of Arabia

After the death of Muhammad in 632 CE, the young Muslim federation came under strain. Some of the tribes decided that as their loyalty to Islam had been primarily to Muhammad himself, his death allowed them to end their allegiance to Mecca and to Islam.


To make things more difficult, the Prophet had not left clear instructions as to who should lead the community after his death.


Fortunately the community immediately chose the Prophet's close companion and father-in-Law Abu Bakr, as his successor. Abu Bakr was known as the first caliph (from khalifa, the Arabic for successor).


Abu Bakr took swift military action against the communities that wanted to break away. These campaigns, known as the apostasy or ridda wars, effectively consolidated Arabia into a single country under Muslim control within two years.



Expansion in the Middle East


Abu Bakr died in 634 and was succeeded by Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second caliph, who ruled until 644. Umar found himself the ruler of a large unified state, with an organised army, and he used this as a tool to spread Islam further in the Middle East.


Umar's early campaigns were against the Byzantine Empire. Following the decisive Battle of Yarmouk in 636, the former Byzantine states of Syria, Palestine, and Lebanon were conquered by the Muslim armies.


Shortly afterwards the Muslim army attacked the Sassanid Empire in Iraq, gaining a massive victory in 637 at the Battle of Qadasiya, and gradually conquering more and more of Iraq over the next dozen years.


This conquest was made much easier by the weakness of the Sassanid Empire, which was wounded by internal conflicts and a lengthy war with the Byzantine Empire.


Within a few years the Muslims had also conquered parts of Egypt to the South and Anatolia and Armenia to the North.
BBC - Religions - Islam: Early rise of Islam (632-700)
 
Old 01-07-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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And what does any of that have to do with the current situation in the Middle East? That's like blaming economic problems in the Eurozone on feudalism.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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Well it looks like some Islamic oriented groups and leaders are condemning the attack.

About time.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 12:59 PM
 
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I can't believe they are still on the loose.

Usually these things end with dead gunmen. These guys got away, committing a carjacking and running over a guy in the process.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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These are terrorists, not Muslims.
What are you talking about? They are MUSLIM terrorists, MUSLIM murders.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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Civilization is under attack from Islam.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9sYgqRtZGg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY
 
Old 01-07-2015, 01:02 PM
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What are you talking about? They are MUSLIM terrorists, MUSLIM murders.
But more importantly, their Islamic faith is not incidental. Its not that they are muslims, its that they did it in the name of Islam. Big difference.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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Blow-by-blow account of Paris massacre - The Economic Times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BQY_50k56U

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Old 01-07-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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This is just an continuation of the ancient conflict between the desert nomadic cultures and the settled farmers and citified merchants. The first is a culture of faith, male superiority and blood feud condemned to everlasting misery. The latter is civilization itself based on and regulated by some variant of Law. Civilized life created the cultures that morphed into our Western way of life with respect for the individual under the law. We could not and cannot abide or submit to the barbarians. We have to assimilate them or destroy them. That will be their choice.
There's no assimilating Muslims. They're here to take over; not assimilate according to their own words. Once the infection starts it becomes rampant and there's no going back.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdoztoBEuc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_znVnOizU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiodZctX2TY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKk15KcqNk
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