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View Poll Results: Would you support a free two year education for only students that graduate?
yes 36 33.03%
no 63 57.80%
Tom Brady is getting another ring this year 10 9.17%
Voters: 109. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-11-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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Not a good idea. I know plenty of students who were turned down by some schools but admitted to much more selective schools. Oddly enough, that happens sometimes because Amherst in your case (but the same applies to many schools) may have thought you were applying there as a "safety" school and would rather admit those they consider more likely to attend. Selectivity is a widely examined factor, but so is yield (the percentage of admitted students who actually end up attending).

Only so much money availabe for college aplications; I stopped around six. Besides, I knew that Amherst was a vast stretch for me, financially as well as academically.
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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Yep. People need to graduate.
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Like New York which offered me a whopping $100 er year for books.
Arizona gives tuition this way if you stay instate. I know of a few RAs I worked with who had to just pay for books as room and board was covered by being an RA.
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Only so much money availabe for college aplications; I stopped around six. Besides, I knew that Amherst was a vast stretch for me, financially as well as academically.
Then again, application fees were very low 40 years ago when you were applying.
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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Some of these arguments remind me of another such argument:
Let's say you go to the hospital. Which would you rather have taking care of you, and why?
1. An Associates Degree Registered Nurse
2. A Bachelor of Science Registered Nurse
3. A Master of Science Registered Nurse(not likely to happen)
4. A PhD Registered nurse (EXTREMELY unlikely!)
There is no difference between an associates degree nurse and a bachelors degree nurse in terms of nursing knowledge. The only difference is a bachelors degree nurse has a two year AA combined with their nursing school as apposed to about a year and a half of prerequisites.

I could care less if my nurse took a cultural diversity course or a 100 level math course that is actually easier than the intermediate algebra course that's required to get into nursing school.

The other two options are primarily to teach and not actually nurse.
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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There is no difference between an associates degree nurse and a bachelors degree nurse in terms of nursing knowledge. The only difference is a bachelors degree nurse has a two year AA combined with their nursing school as apposed to about a year and a half of prerequisites.

I could care less if my nurse took a cultural diversity course or a 100 level math course that is actually easier than the intermediate algebra course that's required to get into nursing school.

The other two options are primarily to teach and not actually nurse.
I wish you had waited for others to post. I wanted to see how many were aware of that.
Yes, I know, the ADRN and the BSRN take EXACTLY the same certification test before being licensed and allowed to practice.
The MSRN and PhDRN are supervisory or teaching positions, not actual patient care nurses.
I am very well acquainted with an ADRN.
Actually, the way I put it is that BSRNs take a lot of "feather courses" that contribute to the BS degree, but not much to patient care.
I'm sure you know what we here in cattle ranching country say BS stands for. Sadly, all to often the terms are interchangeable!
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You could be onto something but remember, You may not have multiple community colleges in your county. When I was in New York, my community college had one campus for the county and only one location, compare that to the community college I attended in Arizona, it has three campuses AND one of several community colleges for the county.

A program like this may increase demand which at best increase class size and number of classes but that depends on how many instructors you can get to teach the courses, and how many classrooms you have.
It creates more jobs and another client of the government. It will worsen the experience of serious students. The issue is not one of cost, the issue is of quality. The quality of the students.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It creates more jobs and another client of the government. It will worsen the experience of serious students. The issue is not one of cost, the issue is of quality. The quality of the students.
Agree 100%. As I've already posted, there are significant deficiencies in 2/3 of public school educated Americans. They aren't even functioning at basic 12th grade-level proficiency.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:08 PM
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This guy is a total ass clown.
Please let him go away already.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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Agree 100%. As I've already posted, there are significant deficiencies in 2/3 of public school educated Americans. They aren't even functioning at basic 12th grade-level proficiency.
Yep. There are Americans who think it's too hard to get a voter ID. How in the hell can we expect them to go to college?
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