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Old 01-14-2015, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Never never never debate with someone who is incensed.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Russia
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This part is the most telling:
LOL. Really? Also this part:
Yes the little people don't matter, actually be capable of making a difference? And you're dead or in prison..
I hear something about Litvinenko. If I don't mistaken he was a traitor, ex-FSB agent. I don't cry about him. This "plutonium" transformed into joke for a long time.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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Never never never debate with someone who is incensed.
Incensed?

Nah, I'm just right.

Did conservatives praise Putin's leadership just a few months ago? Yes. They were wrong. Putin's leadership led to a dumb war in Ukraine they are losing and sanctions that have crippled his nation's economy.

So anyone mostly American conservatives saying Putin is a great leader was proven wrong by reality.


Were conservatives praising/fearing Russian military might after taking over Crimea? Yes conservatives were saying how under Putin's strong leadership Russia was going to just run roughshod over weak President Obama and the West, take over Ukraine, take over Poland and start reconstituting the old USSR.

So anyone mostly American conservstives saying any of that nonsense was proven wrong by objective reality.

This is the record on this as it stands.

conservatives yet again made predictions about the state of the world this time Putin/Russia that had no relation to reality, and as is normal conservatives got everything wrong.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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Americans and Russians have different mentality. I never use concept like "free country" and don't disturb about this. I guess my country is free enough compare with 1937 when got in GULAG for one word against Stalin. Yes, in this meaning I feel myself free.
"if someone does rise up to challenge putin" - if you rise up to challenge Obama? I can try against Putin but I have more important business.
This response amuses me to no end, and makes me feel for you.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Incensed?

Nah, I'm just right.

Did conservatives praise Putin's leadership just a few months ago? Yes. They were wrong. Putin's leadership led to a dumb war in Ukraine they are losing and sanctions that have crippled his nation's economy.

So anyone mostly American conservatives saying Putin is a great leader was proven wrong by reality.


Were conservatives praising/fearing Russian military might after taking over Crimea? Yes conservatives were saying how under Putin's strong leadership Russia was going to just run roughshod over weak President Obama and the West, take over Ukraine, take over Poland and start reconstituting the old USSR.

So anyone mostly American conservstives saying any of that nonsense was proven wrong by objective reality.

This is the record on this as it stands.

conservatives yet again made predictions about the state of the world this time Putin/Russia that had no relation to reality, and as is normal conservatives got everything wrong.

Paint with a broad brush much? Like I said.. Incensed....
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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There is Vladimar Zhirinovsly waiting in the wings. Now he is one tough dude. We wouldn't want to mess with him. But all this is just speculation. But then anything can happen. It would be a shocker though.
What does he look like with his shirt off? I can't find any on Google Images. But, from the images, I see he talks with his hands a lot. Are you sure he's not Italian?
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I think we have set the record for leaders removed from power the last few years, not a Putin fan and would like to see him go but is the alternative going to worse. Maybe we need a leader removal timeout.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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Paint with a broad brush much? Like I said.. Incensed....
Nah, those insane Putin is a great and strong leader who is embarrassing President Obama, and under Putin Russia's military is going to run roughshod over President Obama and the west represented the vast majority conservative opinion about Russia and Putin.

And as usual conservatives got everything wrong.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Nah, those insane Putin is a great and strong leader who is embarrassing President Obama, and under Putin Russia's military is going to run roughshod over President Obama and the west represented the vast majority conservative opinion about Russia and Putin.

And as usual conservatives got everything wrong.
I know I'm flirtin with fire here, but yeah.... You are painting with a wide brush... You are taking a handful of posts and determining that, they are representative of the whole... Sadly typical....
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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I know I'm flirtin with fire here, but yeah.... You are painting with a wide brush... You are taking a handful of posts and determining that, they are representative of the whole... Sadly typical....
A handful of posts? I'm talking about the words of prominent conservatives and conservative elected officials.

These were the voices saying Putin was a strong leader. They were wrong.

They were the ones bed wetting over the fearsome Rusdian military under Purin's strong leadership taking over Ukraine, taking over Poland and starting to reconstitute the old ussr.

Their idiotic words are what I'm referring, and elected and prominent conservatives were saying everything I listed about Putin/Russia, and as usual they were wrong about everything.
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