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Old 01-20-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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Religions have "holy matrimony" Why should a church get to dictate what the government calls a contract?
Exactly. And who in the world would police the use of the term anyway? People are going to call themselves married no matter what the legal term is....they certainly won't go around telling people that they are "civil unioned".

The definitions of words change all the time, so I just don't get those who insist that redefining the word is the biggest issue. Clearly, it is not just the word that bothers them.
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Exactly. And who in the world would police the use of the term anyway? People are going to call themselves married no matter what the legal term is....they certainly won't go around telling people that they are "civil unioned".

The definitions of words change all the time, so I just don't get those who insist that redefining the word is the biggest issue. Clearly, it is not just the word that bothers them.
Especially since all legally married couples *are* in a civil union, which requires a license from a civil authority. The church part is optional - and, in the us, always has been.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:55 AM
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Location: Florida
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I think it will be the opposite. States do not have to recognize all marriages from other states. (example - states do not have to recognize first cousin marriages from other states)
Application of the Fourteenth Amendment has never been applied to that issue at the federal level. Most states do recognize first cousin marriages solemnized in other states and all state-level appellate cases over the last thirty years have been decided in favor of recognition, so there has been no need to test the Fourteenth Amendment on that matter in recent years.
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And who in the world would police the use of the term anyway?
Isn't that precisely what opponents of marriage equality want: The foundation on which to discriminate against same-sex couples with impunity? I can readily see such people filing suit against same-sex couples for misrepresentation. Imagine the Masterpiece Cakeshop incident with a small twist, with the mother of one of the grooms making the arrangements herself instead of with the grooms present. I don't underestimate how low some folks will stoop on this issue.
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Old 01-21-2015, 06:16 AM
 
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And same-sex marriage allows everybody the same right to marry the person of their choice of the same sex. You too can marry a person of the same sex.
No, that's deviant behavior.

Why would I legislate for deviant behavior?

That means deviants want special rights.
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Old 01-21-2015, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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No, that's deviant behavior.

Why would I legislate for deviant behavior?

That means deviants want special rights.
The special right to get married? Like the special right you have?
Our laws can not discriminate based on gender, sorry
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Old 01-21-2015, 06:49 AM
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No, that's deviant behavior.
Only true if your perspective, held now by a minority of Americans, is thereby deviant, and therefore worthy of being marginalized. You're in a catch-22 even if you're unwilling to admit it: Now that you are in the minority, the lame excuse you have for your abject intolerance no longer provides any support for your cause.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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No, that's deviant behavior.

Why would I legislate for deviant behavior?

That means deviants want special rights.
Left handed people are "deviant" from the norm.

Why should we give them special rights?!?!?!
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Old 01-27-2015, 03:01 PM
 
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Left handed people are "deviant" from the norm.

Why should we give them special rights?!?!?!
My daughter's public school classroom actually had "left handed" scissors. Now, we homeschool.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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Left handed scissors offended you so much you pulled your kid out of school?
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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Left handed scissors offended you so much you pulled your kid out of school?
It was a joke. Once upon a time, that would have been obvious. See "Poe's Law".
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