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The point was the Nigerian guy's family experienced first hand what Levin was talking about.
Which doesn't mean they know ANYTHING at all about the root causes of extremist terrorism.
I'm not denying AT ALL whatsoever that Boko Haram are ruthless, scumbag, islamofascist, bark-eating backwoods hillbilly child-murderers and rapists that all deserve to have their heads blown off. I'm just saying that he ignores ENTIRELY what might actually be causing their existence in the first place. It wasn't like North Africa was a lawless Jihadi paradise before 2011. Coincidence, much?
Which doesn't mean they know ANYTHING at all about the root causes of extremist terrorism.
I'm not denying AT ALL whatsoever that Boko Haram are ruthless, scumbag, islamofascist, bark-eating backwoods hillbilly child-murderers and rapists that all deserve to have their heads blown off. I'm just saying that he ignores ENTIRELY what might actually be causing their existence in the first place. It wasn't like North Africa was a lawless Jihadi paradise before 2011. Coincidence, much?
So do you belong to Jimmy Carter's school of thought on the root cause of extremist terrorism?
Does anybody actually listen to what this hack has to say? I live in Colorado Springs, and so most of the talk stations syndicate him in the afternoons. But I'm amazed at the absolute onslaught of lies and moral platitudes that fit a brainless conservative narrative, like he's some sort of enlightened visionary slash Reagan cult member. Today, however, when discussing the recent Haouthi takeover in the capital of Yemen, his bombastic, disingenuous vitriol was on full display and I need to try and understand how ANYONE lets it fly like he might actually be right ever.
If you listen to this guy, why? I don't mean that to be an insult framed as a rhetorical question, either. I really want to know, why? Do you not realize how full of lies almost EVERYTHING this guy says is?
And before you smear me and try to assassinate my character and call me a lefty and a liberal or a commie... I'm AS far from liberal as you could be. Liberals are just as bad as conservatives and their pundits lie just as much, they just lie differently. So don't accuse me of that, because you'd be totally wrong. The full spectrum of world opinion does not fall along the right-left divide, and neither do I.
I hope politics is the correct forum to put this in.
You've revealed who and what you are. If you hate him so much, DON'T LISTEN! I'll catch the podcast tonight. Thanks for reminding me.
Today, he was exclaiming that the Haouthi rebellion is an "islamonazi" rebellion "financed by the Iranians." While not claiming it outright, he alluded to the idea that the government from which they took power was not interested in affiliating with "islamonazis." He also claimed that the president was weak for not saying anything about how the Iranians "export terrorism" to other countries, such as, in this case, Yemen.
But this is all part of a completely non-nuanced narrative in which all people who claim that Sharia carries any authority (most often it is simply an adaptation to tribal law in stone-age backwaters like Yemen) are basically part of the same camp. This is wrong.
The Haouthi rebellion has not been verified to have any connections to Iran whatsoever. This is not to say that they don't. In my own estimation, they probably do, but that's beside the point, because Iran didn't bomb us on 9/11, despite the RIDICULOUS indictment that the justice department handed down on Ramzy Yousef & Co. implicating bin Laden in '96 that claimed that "Iran, al-Qaida and Hezbollah had formed ties" to fight against a "common enemy." To claim outright that it was an Iranian-financed coup is not only irresponsible, but it's inconsequential. The government they overthrew has ACTUALLY PROVIDED A SAFE-HAVEN FOR AL-QAIDA... you know... the people who BUTCHERED NEW YORK. And there's some work speculating he actually funneled money from the Saudi and Emirati elite to AQAP, although I can't verify that past connections made by journalists I respect, and so won't claim it as fact.
The Iranians also don't export terrorism. They absolutely financed Hezbollah prior to the ending of the occupation of southern Lebanon, and I'll concede that they have given Hamas money, but part of that is the fact that the IDF has basically criminalized or eliminated ANY group other than Hamas that has attempted to oppose both the occupation and the Jewish settlements. After the occupation of southern Lebanon was over, Hezbollah stopped being terrorists (most of whom never were) and started being a propaganda machine that occasionally skirmished with the IDF on the southern border.
This could go on forever. He makes it sound so black and white:
There are "islamonazis" that want to "force the West back into the stone age" (although he never explains WHY they want to do that), and then there are the Western forces of democracy and freedom that stand in between America and Sharia law. Really, Mark? You're a damned fool.
That doesn't make anyone right at all, just because they're from Nigeria. He's probably never heard of blowback or all the U.S. interventions or the great reporting on how the overthrow of Qaddafi and the war in Mali strengthened al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb and armed Boko Haram in the first place.
And OF COURSE he agreed. A guy like Mark never would have a smart person on his show who could make a good argument against him, because the would blow his cover. The only people he ever has on who disagree with him are usually drunk liberals that sound like crazies because it fits his broader narrative.
The caller said he was from Nigeria. That would make him 1/715 million people in Nigeria. Most people in Nigeria are more concerned with where their next meal is coming from than spending their meager earnings making a call to a Conservative Entertainer's radio show. The guy could have been calling from 20 feet away or around the corner. Who knows?
Does anybody actually listen to what this hack has to say? I live in Colorado Springs, and so most of the talk stations syndicate him in the afternoons. But I'm amazed at the absolute onslaught of lies and moral platitudes that fit a brainless conservative narrative, like he's some sort of enlightened visionary slash Reagan cult member. Today, however, when discussing the recent Haouthi takeover in the capital of Yemen, his bombastic, disingenuous vitriol was on full display and I need to try and understand how ANYONE lets it fly like he might actually be right ever.
If you listen to this guy, why? I don't mean that to be an insult framed as a rhetorical question, either. I really want to know, why? Do you not realize how full of lies almost EVERYTHING this guy says is?
And before you smear me and try to assassinate my character and call me a lefty and a liberal or a commie... I'm AS far from liberal as you could be. Liberals are just as bad as conservatives and their pundits lie just as much, they just lie differently. So don't accuse me of that, because you'd be totally wrong. The full spectrum of world opinion does not fall along the right-left divide, and neither do I.
I hope politics is the correct forum to put this in.
Sometimes, the guy actually makes sense. I admire his tenacity in demanding that the neocons don't abandon their principles, even though I disagree with them.
Sometimes, the guy actually makes sense. I admire his tenacity in demanding that the neocons don't abandon their principles, even though I disagree with them.
Yeah, I'll give you that. But he's still SUCH a damned liar it's hard to honor anything he does.
You've revealed who and what you are. If you hate him so much, DON'T LISTEN! I'll catch the podcast tonight. Thanks for reminding me.
Sounds like an assumtpion typical of Levin himself: a single sentence and you suddenly know just "who" I am and discredit everything else I say. Good job being smart, pal.
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