The March for Life Banners the Media Won’t Show You (Limbaugh, Reagan)
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You zeroed in on what supports your position, but missed or ignored the larger issue.
I don't see anyone on the pro-abortion side discussing this topic with the seriousness and moral weight that
these debates deserve, as Obama himself expressed: there is something extraordinarily powerful about potential life and that that has a moral weight to it that we take into consideration when we’re having these debates.
Plus, you say "so what?" and totally ignore that Obama calls a "fetus" (pre-delivery pro-abortion term) who survives a late term abortion a "child". Then goes on to say we mustn't call it that.
He said that giving medical aid to such a baby that survives the abortion would be going against the intentions of the mother. Now, don't you see a problem here? The child is born. It is a human being, according to the pro-abortion assertion that "life begins at birth". Yet the mother is still in control of another's body just by her "intent"
What an outrageous view and all on the left overlook it, skirt around it, or come back with the sickening argument that late term abortions are "only done in 1%" of pregnancies. Do you know what 1% of the total is?
There has been an explosion in scientific knowledge concerning the unborn child since 1973,
when Roe v. Wade was decided. Now, for example, there is substantial medical evidence that an unborn child is capable of experiencing pain by 20 weeks after fertilization. (Note, "by 20 weeks" not after 20 weeks.)
you seem to be ignoring the fact that late term abortions are done on seriously ill children who doubtfully would survive more than a few hours. they are done on healthy children just ready to be born and live life.
no one should be able to step into a decision about something so personal besides the woman, her family and the doctor.
Teens should not be having sex. Most agree with that but still tell teens to go get birth control. How is that not crazy making? Double messages never helped anyone. Plus BC is never 100%. Even PP said they could not give out BC without abortion as a back up. They know the truth.
Abstinence only education does not work. Mississippi has this program, and is always in the top 5 states for teen pregnancy.
Welcome to reality, things do not always go the way we think they should.
Can you honestly tell me with a straight face that there is enough help out there for all 1 MILLION women that have abortions a year?
Seriously?
Can you tell me why 1 million women have to have abortions each year when they have BC? Throwing BC at teens, etc sure isn't helping. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over when it doesn't help.
Teens have natural urges and are notorious for not having impulse control. At very least we should be arming them with knowledge and all tools to prevent pregnancy. Not just say "just say no". Because that does not work in real life.
Can you tell me why 1 million women have to have abortions each year when they have BC? Throwing BC at teens, etc sure isn't helping. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over when it doesn't help.
Can you tell me why 1 million women have to have abortions each year when they have BC? Throwing BC at teens, etc sure isn't helping. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over when it doesn't help.
Yep. Teaching abstinence only does not work. That is why we need to teach comprehensive sex ed, and have free or low cost long term implantable birth control for women.
THAT is something that has actually shown to reduce abortion rates.
That only proves women in that state keep their babies and are against abortion more than other places. They aren't the only state with that program.
No, it proves that they have no other choice since the state of Mississippi only has one clinic that offers abortion and the state is trying to get that one shut down.
If abstinence only education worked the pregnancy rates would be lower in the states that taught it. But that is not the way it is.
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Among the 48 states in this analysis (all U.S. states except North Dakota and Wyoming), 21 states stressed abstinence-only education in their 2005 state laws and/or policies (level 3), 7 states emphasized abstinence education (level 2), 11 states covered abstinence in the context of comprehensive sex education (level 1), and 9 states did not mention abstinence (level 0) in their state laws or policies (Figure 1).
In 2005, level 0 states had an average (± standard error) teen pregnancy rate of 58.78 (±4.96),
level 1 states averaged 56.36 (±3.94),
level 2 states averaged 61.86 (±3.93),
and level 3 states averaged 73.24 (±2.58) teen pregnancies per 1000 girls aged 14–19 (Table 3).
The level of abstinence education (no provision, covered, promoted, stressed) was positively correlated with both teen pregnancy (Spearman's rho = 0.510, p = 0.001) and teen birth (rho = 0.605, p<0.001) rates (Table 4), indicating that abstinence education in the U.S. does not cause abstinence behavior. To the contrary, teens in states that prescribe more abstinence education are actually more likely to become pregnant
Note. These are PREGNANCY rates, not abortion rates. These are the numbers of teens that get pregnant.
If you reduce the pregnancy rate, you reduce the abortion rate. The best way to prevent pregnancy is education and access to long term BC methods. If women are not getting pregnant, they will not be having abortions.
Abstinence only has proven itself a failure at reducing pregnancy rates, but education and access to BC has proven to reduce pregnancy rates. The proof is in the numbers.
Can you tell me why 1 million women have to have abortions each year when they have BC? Throwing BC at teens, etc sure isn't helping. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over when it doesn't help.
"women" are not teens. most teens despite having sex are too embarrassed or too afraid to ask for BC. a great deal of them don't think they will have sex until one night they do on the spur of the moment. to continue to ignore the FACT that teens will have sex and to not do all you can to educate them and make BC free and available is the definition of insanity.
Your boyfriend went through a life like that and didn't learn not to bring a child into the world until he was ready to be a good father? Now that is really sad.
WTH are you talking about? They were going to PP for a routine annual exam. Read closely before you post.
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