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On a scale of 1 - 10...a 5, the CDC reports that about 20,000 suicides per year are by gun...and about 40,000 total per year...
Which has exactly zero bearing on the firearms' lethality in each individual attempt.
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So, seeing actual numbers, I'd say there are just as many other lethal objects other than guns....or that 20,000 would be much higher, right?
How on Earth do you conclude that? You have one single method accounting for 50% of suicides. I have no idea - and neither do you - of how many suicidally depressed people have/had easy access to firearms.
Research indicates that means reduction lowers the suicide rate.
In the US, one means of suicide massively outnumbers all others - it is used in 50% of all suicides, twice as many as its nearest contender.
Restricting access to that means for depressed people is likely to reduce the overall number of suicides.
So now you are putting a "number of times" it has to happen?
Point is cops have shot themselves, do you consider them fully trained or not?
No, a cop that is stupid enough to shoot themselves isn't fully trained and should have his gun removed until he can prove he can handle it or be discharged for doing a poor job.
To own a gun, one should be required to safely know how to handle that gun, unfortunately that part wasn't written in the 2nd Amendment because the founding fathers didn't realize how stupid people would become with guns.
No, a cop that is stupid enough to shoot themselves isn't fully trained and should have his gun removed until he can prove he can handle it or be discharged for doing a poor job.
To own a gun, one should be required to safely know how to handle that gun, unfortunately that part wasn't written in the 2nd Amendment because the founding fathers didn't realize how stupid people would become with guns.
But it's happened and you anti gunners always talk about how cops should be the only ones with guns, yet they still shoot themselves...
A civilian control room operator was shot in the abdomen during a firearms awareness course in Kidlington, Oxfordshire, last year. A Thames Valley Police firearms officer had been showing staff his Glock pistol, unaware it was loaded.
• A Sussex police officer accidentally shot a 48-year-old PC in the body at the range at Gatwick police station in August 2007. Body armour saved him from serious injury.
• A trainee firearms officer shot a Met instructor in the thigh as he was setting up a target in a mock-up of a night-time alley in 2003.
• A diplomatic protection officer in Central London shot himself in the leg getting into a car in September 2007.
• A firearms officer from West Mercia Police shot himself in the leg and foot in January 2006 after his gun became caught in his clothing.
• An airport security officer from the Met shot the top of his thumb off when he put it in front of his MP5 sub-machine gun during training in 2005.
Which has exactly zero bearing on the firearms' lethality in each individual attempt.
How on Earth do you conclude that? You have one single method accounting for 50% of suicides. I have no idea - and neither do you - of how many suicidally depressed people have/had easy access to firearms.
Research indicates that means reduction lowers the suicide rate.
In the US, one means of suicide massively outnumbers all others - it is used in 50% of all suicides, twice as many as its nearest contender.
Restricting access to that means for depressed people is likely to reduce the overall number of suicides.
If you compare other countries, you will find that lack of access to firearms just means choosing another method. Even if no guns were ever available to suicidal people, it would not reduce the suicide rate by 50%. Hanging oneself appears to be popular:
In Japan, hanging, jumping off buildings, and jumping in front of moving vehicles are apparently common methods used.
In Denmark, poisoning and hanging are both twice as common as in the US.
To prevent suicide, sometimes you have to restrict access to all methods, which means 24 hour supervision. Some psychiatric diagnoses have high suicide rates, even with treatment. Bipolar disorder, for example, has about a 20% death by suicide rate.
Reducing the suicide rate requires better mental health care.
ALBUQUERQUE: A 3-year-old boy found a handgun in his mother’s purse and fired just one shot that wounded both his parents at an Albuquerque motel on Saturday, police said.
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I think the kid took a wrong turn at Albuquerque.
Damn good shot...bagging two with one shot.
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