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Old 02-02-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Don't work for them.



Don't borrow from them.



Are you saying the GOVERNMENT is taking money from the poor, in the form of inflation?

If so, isn't that a government problem?



So, it's your contention that a very wealthy person paying $2,000,000 in income taxes and using the same infrastructure as a person paying $2,000 in taxes isn't paying their fair share?

Wouldn't paying $1,998,000 more mean they are paying their fair share?

Might I recommend a math tutor.

No, your math is bad. If we pay according to use of infrastructure, corporations will need to pay the lions share!

Unless you are one of those who pays 2 million in yearly income taxes, I have to wonder why you want to pay more so they can pay less.
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Old 02-02-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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No, your math is bad. If we pay according to use of infrastructure, corporations will need to pay the lions share!

Unless you are one of those who pays 2 million in yearly income taxes, I have to wonder why you want to pay more so they can pay less.
Exactly.
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Old 02-02-2015, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The system is set up to benefit the top.
Well, Al Gore and Obama's buddies at Solyndra would certainly agree with you.
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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Don't forget, loan money with interest to governments, to maintain infrastructure, instead of paying their fair share in taxes.
The big question though is "fair share".

You screamed bloody murder when he tried to rein in Wisconsin sprawling public sector and they already have the highest overall tax burden of any midwestern state.

So when your traditional industries there like the paper production are hammered, GE continues to move all their medical to China and tourism was down from the financial crisis......your answer is to increase taxes?

In short, you seem opposed to any tightening of the belt on the public sector when things get tough for the private sector...and when the private sector gets smaller....you just increase the taxes on them further.

Not sure you are seeing the "end game".
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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They should decrease spending in other areas to offset the cost of the infrastructure. Government has taken more than enough from the American public, and it's about time for it to give something in return to them other than eternal cries of "gimme gimme gimme". What they take now on an annual basis is sufficient to build anything our hearts desire...if the right political choices are made.

What government is telling us now in the "pay up or we'll let your roads rot" paradigm is that all their other spending is a higher priority to them than infrastructure - every single other program means more to them. Remember that when they claim to "care about investing in our infrastructure".
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They should decrease spending in other areas to offset the cost of the infrastructure. Government has taken more than enough from the American public, and it's about time for it to give something in return to them other than eternal cries of "gimme gimme gimme". What they take now on an annual basis is sufficient to build anything our hearts desire...if the right political choices are made.

What government is telling us now in the "pay up or we'll let your roads rot" paradigm is that all their other spending is a higher priority to them than infrastructure - every single other program means more to them. Remember that when they claim to "care about investing in our infrastructure".

Government has taken it upon themselves, to vote themselves to do things never intended for the US or State governments to do, if we were to truly remain free with liberties for all.
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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Ronald Reagan, Give the top a tax cut to goose the economy. What did they do with that tax cut? Move our jobs to other countries? Well I want the tax money they didn't pay back with interest. Or just an annual increase in the minimum wage of 5% a year, and that minimum wage applied to every worker foreign or domestic that works for a company owned by an American or an American legal entity. And everyone that makes something to be imported to the US.
When prices rise 5% to accommodate that 5% cost increase and everyones purchasing power remains the same, is it time for a 10% increase?
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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Ronald Reagan, Give the top a tax cut to goose the economy. What did they do with that tax cut? Move our jobs to other countries? Well I want the tax money they didn't pay back with interest. Or just an annual increase in the minimum wage of 5% a year, and that minimum wage applied to every worker foreign or domestic that works for a company owned by an American or an American legal entity. And everyone that makes something to be imported to the US.
Houston we indeed have a problem. But I'm not so sure your pathway is the way forward as it will kill jobs and businesses.

Senator Bernie Sanders presents Tcherneva's research to Show How Reagan Helped Destroy the Middle Class - New Economic PerspectivesNew Economic Perspectives
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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When prices rise 5% to accommodate that 5% cost increase and everyones purchasing power remains the same, is it time for a 10% increase?
Do you get it? If the FED gets 2% inflation and the minimum wage goes up 5% then what happens?
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Houston we indeed have a problem. But I'm not so sure your pathway is the way forward as it will kill jobs and businesses.

Senator Bernie Sanders presents Tcherneva's research to Show How Reagan Helped Destroy the Middle Class - New Economic PerspectivesNew Economic Perspectives
Ok how about this. The problem with outsourcing is not that they got our jobs it is that they also didn't get our pay. More later.
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