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Old 02-04-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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OP, I can understand why you are livid. Given your past posts, the thought of someone actually showing amazing determination and showing up for work every day in spite of having to walk makes you appreciate just how lazy and useless the vast majority on welfare actually are. All the young, able bodied people, particularly those who's only accomplishment has been to spread their legs and get knocked up, then latch onto welfare for decades have no excuse when this middle aged guy makes this effort.

I wish him the best.
Agreed!!!!
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Again, the philosophical question at hand "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make any sound"?

"If people are not in the forest of race and class, does it make any sound"? That is the problem. The right assumes that there are little sounds of hard work, sacrifice, personal responsibility and the like coming from the race/class forest, lest, they would not continue to be trapped in the forest.

It's the assumptions one makes when they are not in the forest to see for themselves.....that shows what type of person they are.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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No, I did not. But, the point of his perseverance is what counts. Not how others choose to view it, or try to paint it, for cheap political posturing. This man is a winner in human spirit terms.
Small moral comfort.

You conservatives are missing the bigger picture:

What did his backbreaking hard work get him? He is walking 21 miles per day for less than $11 per hour. He's been doing this for years. Where did all that hard work go to?!?! Where?!
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Under Republican rule, that is definitely reward enough. Once he becomes injured, or sick.. he will just be thrown down the worker hole.
I'm sorry but I have a hard time paying attention to anyone stupid enough to use terms like "Under Republican Rule" in a thread about a guy in Detroit. "Republican Rule" had nothing to do with Detroit's problems, that's just a fact you don't like.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Small moral comfort.

You conservatives are missing the bigger picture:

What did his backbreaking hard work get him? He is walking 21 miles per day for less than $11 per hour. He's been doing this for years. Where did all that hard work go to?!?! Where?!
What did democrat voting get him and other people in Detroit?
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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The last two sentences contradict the bolded.

And aside from the fact that he was fortunate enough to be made recognized/funded by good samaritans, look where a decade of backbreaking hard work and discipline got him? Pretty much nowhere. And after all his commitment and loyalty to the job, once he is physically injured or simply used up, you can bet that his employer won't hesitate to dump him like a broken toy.
It is all about choices. He chose to stay at a dead end job all these years. He chose to do commute an insanely high distance (if true) for someone without a vehicle.
Growing up my dad always told me, "work smart, not hard" and that is one thing this guy did not do.

Digging a basement with a shovel is certainly going to be hard work but would it be much smarter to use a back hoe ?
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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It is all about choices. He chose to stay at a dead end job all these years. He chose to do commute an insanely high distance (if true) for someone without a vehicle.
Growing up my dad always told me, "work smart, not hard" and that is one thing this guy did not do.

Digging a basement with a shovel is certainly going to be hard work but would it be much smarter to use a back hoe ?
Unemployment in Metro Detroit probably peaked at near depression levels in 2008. He had his job for 10 years, meaning he started circa 2005. He likely made sure to hold onto that job (through the hard times), by any means necessary, in an extremely bad economy where there were not and are not that many opportunities.....and at 56....who is going to hire him for an upwardly mobile position that pays well and are willing to invest in his training today? Yet....you talk about choices as if they were omnipresent.

You people are extremely poor at understanding and putting things in CONTEXT. When YOU do not understand something, or know all the facts, you just assume others are STUPID....and don't question your own ignorance and prejudice. Then when people put the proper label on you for your demonstrated ignorance......you cry foul.

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Old 02-04-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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'you people'?

I thought that was a forbidden phrase.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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At 3mph it's a 7 hour walk each way. Something ain't exactly right.
Gee, you figure?
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:26 AM
 
Location: London
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It is all about choices. He chose to stay at a dead end job all these years. He chose to do commute an insanely high distance (if true) for someone without a vehicle.
Growing up my dad always told me, "work smart, not hard" and that is one thing this guy did not do.

Digging a basement with a shovel is certainly going to be hard work but would it be much smarter to use a back hoe ?
Detroit is probably the cheapest city in the US in terms of housing. But the local job market is a ghost town.

If he's from there, it's not so easy to get out, especially when the best you can earn is $10/hr. Success and living standards in the US are very much dependent on the circumstances you were fortunate (or not) to be born into. There are exceptions, but you hear about them because they're exceptions, not the rule.

That said, if I were him, given his publicity, I'd apply for more high paying jobs in better areas, with relocation assistance. Many employers would probably jump to hire a guy like that.
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