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Old 02-18-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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I think he means personal scandals. As far as we know Obama hasn't had an embarrassing and silly little sex affair (Clinton), he hasn't been involved in an illegal arms deal (Reagan), and while many disagree with him politically he didn't justify invading a sovereign nation with entirely contrived evidence or display complete ineptitude and callousness during a national disaster the way W did.

Interestingly, I don't think HW Bush really had any personal scandals either. In terms of personal conduct, both he and Obama seem pretty clean.
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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I think he means personal scandals. As far as we know Obama hasn't had an embarrassing and silly little sex affair (Clinton), he hasn't been involved in an illegal arms deal (Reagan), and while many disagree with him politically he didn't justify invading a sovereign nation with entirely contrived evidence or display complete ineptitude and callousness during a national disaster the way W did.

Interestingly, I don't think HW Bush really had any personal scandals either. In terms of personal conduct, both he and Obama seem pretty clean.


Personal? Nah, Michele owns his nads and his handlers watch him too closely.

Fast and Furious????

There are more dangerous questions surrounding his 6 years in office than there are hints of scandal while JFK was POTUS.

Obama may not have done the deeds but he knows all about them. He had to condone some of the coverup BS tales.
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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No scandals? Is this book in the fiction section? There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Old 02-19-2015, 01:28 AM
 
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I think he means personal scandals. As far as we know Obama hasn't had an embarrassing and silly little sex affair (Clinton), he hasn't been involved in an illegal arms deal (Reagan), and while many disagree with him politically he didn't justify invading a sovereign nation with entirely contrived evidence or display complete ineptitude and callousness during a national disaster the way W did.

Interestingly, I don't think HW Bush really had any personal scandals either. In terms of personal conduct, both he and Obama seem pretty clean.



That IRS as a weapon against the People was hell though.
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Old 02-19-2015, 02:53 AM
 
Location: MPLS
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In order to have a 'scandal,' I think the public actually has to care. When some echelon of government (ATF, IRS, State Department, etc.) makes a minor error (and yes, a handful of casualties is minor in terms of government F-ups -- see 'Iraq War') at some level far beneath the president's direct supervision, it's too routine to sustain interest.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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Default Drishmael is right

We have crossed over into the "New Normal" in which the voting public has low, sorry no, expectations that our elected officials won't be lying, self serving, self dealing, members of an exclusive club.

Bad conduct is routine. So routine, that it isn't worth mentioning.

So what would be an impeachable, indictable offense is ignored.

There are MURDERS and there are little murders.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:50 AM
 
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There are no scandals, as much as the GOP congress tried and tried to manufacture some. They failed.

I need hip waders to walk through the BS that statement generated.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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Every President has scandals.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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David Axelrod's commented that a significant achievement of the Obama Administration is that there are no scandals (unlike other presidential tenures.)
Are you unable to form your own opinion on the matter and need to ask other people how to think? That would make you a democrat,,,,,,
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:46 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Just because politically motivated GOP hacks call them scandals doesn't mean they are.
Just as because politically motivated liberal hacks deny anything is a scandal doesn't mean that they aren't scandals.
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