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Old 02-19-2015, 10:47 AM
 
Location: NJ
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David Axelrod's commented that a significant achievement of the Obama Administration is that there are no scandals (unlike other presidential tenures.)
Did ax say sandals or scandals?
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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I think he means personal scandals. As far as we know Obama hasn't had an embarrassing and silly little sex affair (Clinton), he hasn't been involved in an illegal arms deal (Reagan), and while many disagree with him politically he didn't justify invading a sovereign nation with entirely contrived evidence or display complete ineptitude and callousness during a national disaster the way W did.

Interestingly, I don't think HW Bush really had any personal scandals either. In terms of personal conduct, both he and Obama seem pretty clean.
Obama's justice department sent guns to drug cartels and the head of that justice department was proven to have lied about it while under oath to congress and Obama said that nothing wrong happened. I would say that qualifies as being involved in an illegal arms deal.

It is arguably worse than Reagan's involvement with the Iran-Contra affair because while Reagan claimed to have no knowledge of anything wrong happening, Obama actually falsely claimed that nothing wrong happened. Reagan just claimed ignorance while Obama actively participated in covering it up.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Nobody is stopping Conservatives from uncovering scandals. You want to blame the "liberal media" for being in bed w/ the Administration? Cool. What about Conservative media? Are they also trying to go easy on the Administration?
Where do you think that we hear about all of the "non-scandals"?

It certainly is not from the liberal media.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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Axelrod's got a book coming out. That statement just keeps his name in the news and people will buy the book to see what other stupid statements he'll make or will side with the statement and buy the book because they think alike.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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Axelrod is correct. No POTUS gets 100% approval, but scandals we haven't had from this administration.
You are kidding, right?
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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Nothing more needs to be said. He's right.
Well, if you support this statement we all can know it is false.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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Did everyone forget that liberals were also targeted by the IRS and the ATF scandals stated under Bush as did stimulus scandals? I am not an Obama supporter, I voted the other guy TWICE but to be fair, there is no Watergate or Monica to bring him down. Even Benghazi wasn't really his fault.
No Watergate or Monica evidence yet. Perhaps he is just better at covering his tracks.

Benghazi? Happened on his watch. Ever hear the saying "the buck stops hear"?
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Just because the press chooses to ignore them doesn't mean they didn't exist.
I've always felt that way about flying pink elephants. Just because nobody see's them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Old 02-19-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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I think he means personal scandals. As far as we know Obama hasn't had an embarrassing and silly little sex affair (Clinton), he hasn't been involved in an illegal arms deal (Reagan), and while many disagree with him politically he didn't justify invading a sovereign nation with entirely contrived evidence or display complete ineptitude and callousness during a national disaster the way W did.

Interestingly, I don't think HW Bush really had any personal scandals either. In terms of personal conduct, both he and Obama seem pretty clean.
And the spinning begins. Axelrod did not say did not say personal, he said any. Just live with what was actually said, not with what you want it to be. Lying does not bolster your cause.
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Old 02-19-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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No Watergate or Monica evidence yet. Perhaps he is just better at covering his tracks.

Benghazi? Happened on his watch. Ever hear the saying "the buck stops hear"?
Benghazi was not a scandal. It was an attack on a U.S. embassy. It has happened before: Tehran, Beirut, Dar es Salaam, Nairobi, Ankara.

A scandal, in context, is something like:

Watergate
Lewinsky/perjury
Iran-Contra
Gulf of Tonkin
Iraqi WMD "evidence"
The Plame Affair
Abu Ghraib/White House-directed violations of the law of war
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