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Old 02-20-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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Never fear, warming continues..

Last month was the second-warmest January on record globally, trailing only 2007, according to data released Thursday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
Climate records go back to 1880. January second-warmest on record globally
Yup, global warming for you guys is now weather events. I remember when you guys used to claim "weather is not climate," now it is.

 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:45 AM
 
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Actually, theories are based on evidence and tests. You don't just get to make up theories.
Yet theories are just guesswork.

In order to have a test, you have to have a baseline temperature.

Who decided what is the baseline temperature? How did they come to that figure? I read conflicting reports from "experts" all professing they know the cause yet their theories cancel themselves out.

So what is a "normal" temperature.

I say no one really knows and so they crap out a figure, claim the next climate Armageddon is around the corner unless we "do something" yet the something escapes everyone except liberals who smell a new tax that they could impose.

Thus, the whole thing is nonsensical, no one knows what will really happen since all the predictions have epically failed.

So we are left with the earth heats and cools periodically.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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oh gee, another idiotic climate change thread where both sides make their claims that only they understand the science, and then ignore all the science that matters.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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Yet theories are just guesswork.
I'm beginning to realize that every single one of your claims can be refuted by linking to sites for kids.

scientific theory --* Kids Encyclopedia | Children's Homework Help | Kids Online Dictionary | Britannica
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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This is the 4th brutal winter since 2009 for much of the US. These long brutal winters use more fossil fuels, especially heating oil.

I don't care if it's 1 degree warmer in Siberia or an ice cap is melting (the weather stations in these regions read higher than actual anyway due to age). The world could use the extra potable water and the US could use the warming. I think we should encourage pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere through tax credits. Ever feel how comfortable and lively it is in a greenhouse?
This is from NASA.... duh, duh, dummmmmm

NASA - What's the Difference Between Weather and Climate? February 1, 2005

The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

When we talk about climate change, we talk about changes in long-term averages of daily weather. Today, children always hear stories from their parents and grandparents about how snow was always piled up to their waists as they trudged off to school. Children today in most areas of the country haven't experienced those kinds of dreadful snow-packed winters, except for the Northeastern U.S. in January 2005. The change in recent winter snows indicate that the climate has changed since their parents were young.


Looks like the winters of our parents never actually left, did it. Looks like the folks at NASA need to reassess how many years "changes in long-term averages of daily weather" is, guess the earth's climate is evaluated over more than a twenty or thirty year blip of time.

A warm summer here, or a cold winter there is not climate, it's weather.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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oh gee, another idiotic climate change thread where both sides make their claims that only they understand the science, and then ignore all the science that matters.
I've posted numerous links to actual credible scientific journals that were completely ignored, then met with hostility without having been read.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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I'm beginning to realize that every single one of your claims can be refuted by linking to sites for kids.

scientific theory --* Kids Encyclopedia | Children's Homework Help | Kids Online Dictionary | Britannica
And yet you cling to failed theory.

Another failed argument.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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I've posted numerous links to actual credible scientific journals that were completely ignored, then met with hostility without having been read.
and so have otheres on BOTH SIDES of the debate, with the same results. one side posts an article, and the other claims it is from a blogger, or the scientist that wrote the article is not a particular kind of scientist, or that they are adjusting or fudging or otherwise cooking the numbers.

in the end it has become a political debate rather than a scientific one, and as such both sides are suspect in this debate.

and do you know what the really sad thing is? we have not yet heard ALL the evidence because much of it wont be peer reviewed because it doesnt fit the political agenda.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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And yet you cling to failed theory.

Another failed argument.
It hasn't failed.
Another delusion.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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It hasn't failed.
Another delusion.
Dream on.
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