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Old 02-24-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Liberal enclaves tend to be heavily populated with bigots-why is this any surprise? I would think the victim would have a EEOC case. Lil' Eric Holder better jump right on this one.
EEOC only applies to jobs .
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:28 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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People much closer to the facts of this matter have given the most reliable insight into what occurred:
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Originally Posted by UCLA’s Vice Chancellor of Student Affairs, Janina Montero
I believe our community is more generous, thoughtful and inclusive than this particular incident would suggest.
That statement means absolutely nothing. If the entire UCLA community is at prejudiced, thoughtless and exclusive as this incident suggests, they are in way more trouble than just this incident.
If she had maybe singled out just the student council instead of the entire university community, I might think this meant something about the incident. Instead, this statement almost reads as a condemnation of the UCLA USAC.
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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EEOC only applies to jobs .
This is not (as far as I know) a paid position. However, it is a leadership position, and one that could help with future advancement, either academic or professional. Are you implying that it's OK to discriminate in such cases?

Now, how about if the school decided they would not let any blacks (or hispanics, or Asians, etc) enroll. Would that be acceptable? Discrimination backed by the power of the university, especially a publicly funded one, can not be tolerated.
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Originally Posted by UCLA’s Vice Chancellor of Student Affairs, Janina Montero
I believe our community is more generous, thoughtful and inclusive than this particular incident would suggest.
The head of the KKK or the NAZI party can make the same statement. Does that make it true????
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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EEOC only applies to jobs .
Most student council appointments at large public universities are paid positions, though I have no idea if that would enough to be covered by EEOC (or if the USAC would be considered a separate employer from the university and so probably be too small to fall under EEOC regulation).
Looking through their 460+ page budget, there is $100k allocated for officer stipends, but no indication if that includes judges or how many positions that covers.
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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Leftists and anti-semites have a lovely bloody history together. Why change it now?
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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This is not (as far as I know) a paid position. However, it is a leadership position, and one that could help with future advancement, either academic or professional. Are you implying that it's OK to discriminate in such cases?

Now, how about if the school decided they would not let any blacks (or hispanics, or Asians, etc) enroll. Would that be acceptable? Discrimination backed by the power of the university, especially a publicly funded one, can not be tolerated.
No, which was evident in my first post in this thread. I was simply pointing out that the EEOC has no authority in this case. Which I am finding out might not be true now xD.
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: North America
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Most student council appointments at large public universities are paid positions, though I have no idea if that would enough to be covered by EEOC (or if the USAC would be considered a separate employer from the university and so probably be too small to fall under EEOC regulation).
Looking through their 460+ page budget, there is $100k allocated for officer stipends, but no indication if that includes judges or how many positions that covers.
Oh, well then I might be wrong . I was always under the impression these were a student thing with no compensation.
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Old 02-24-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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No, which was evident in my first post in this thread. I was simply pointing out that the EEOC has no authority in this case.
OK, thanks. My bad. I'm not quite sure about that-who does investigate discrimination on non-employment cases?
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:07 AM
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Location: Florida
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That statement means absolutely nothing.
Wrong: It means what it means. What you're reacting to apparently is that she didn't say what you wanted her to say. She didn't say what I wanted her to say either. Why are you shocked that people don't magically abide your personal preference?
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