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So your issue is not refusing service to gays, it's Christians refusing service to gays. THANK YOU for finally being honest about your position!
I don't care if they are Christian, Muslim, pagan, believers in aliens, or anything else. Discrimination is discrimination. And religious beliefs do not trump generally applicable laws.
And where did I even mentions Christians in the post you quoted?
If it is not something that the business does not offer then yes. No business is required to offer every product know to man. I can not go into a burger joint and then sue because they don't serve country fried steak. Both are beef, just prepared differently.
I can not go into a music shop and sue because they do not offer classical jazz.
Again, YOUR argument has always been that if a florist sells flowers for a wedding, they cannot refuse to make flowers for a gay "wedding." Now you are changing your view to say that even if the florist sells wedding flowers, the florist can deny wedding flowers to a gay customer if the florist does not carry a specific flower?
So the florist has no obligation to source the flowers being requested, just say no to the gay customer.
And a baker that bakes cakes can refuse gay customers merely because of the shape of the cake request, even though the same ingredients are used and the baker has created many cakes of various shapes and colors, in your opinion.
I don't care if they are Christian, Muslim, pagan, believers in aliens, or anything else. Discrimination is discrimination. And religious beliefs do not trump generally applicable laws.
Because a Constitutionally protected right is not as valid as lack of floral inventory or cake shape. According to you.
Again, YOUR argument has always been that if a florist sells flowers for a wedding, they cannot refuse to make flowers for a gay "wedding." Now you are changing your view to say that even if the florist sells wedding flowers, the florist can deny wedding flowers to a gay customer if the florist does not carry a specific flower?
So the florist has no obligation to source the flowers being requested, just say no to the gay customer.
And a baker that bakes cakes can refuse gay customers merely because of the shape of the cake request, even though the same ingredients are used and the baker has created many cakes of various shapes and colors, in your opinion.
Please show me where any of the refusal cases were about the design.
So far they have all been about the people ordering, not the design of the cake/flowers.
Again, YOUR argument has always been that if a florist sells flowers for a wedding, they cannot refuse to make flowers for a gay "wedding." Now you are changing your view to say that even if the florist sells wedding flowers, the florist can deny wedding flowers to a gay customer if the florist does not carry a specific flower?
So the florist has no obligation to source the flowers being requested, just say no to the gay customer.
And a baker that bakes cakes can refuse gay customers merely because of the shape of the cake request, even though the same ingredients are used and the baker has created many cakes of various shapes and colors, in your opinion.
Take it easy - I don't want you to confuse your local grocery store today about your needs.
Please show me where any of the refusal cases were about the design.
So far they have all been about the people ordering, not the design of the cake/flowers.
You stated that a baker could refuse to provide a wedding cake to a gay couple, based solely on the design of the cake (i.e., a rainbow colored, penis shaped cake). That was your statement.
Changing the goal posts once again!
You would be an AWESOME teaching aid for a debate class!
No You Cannot.. and its obvious you dont own a business and you sure dont know the law.. That said Things must have CHANGED DRASTICALLY since I Lived in the Tri cities in 1980 hahahaha I guess all those good ol boys selling ranches to grape growings changed the landscape hahahaha
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Originally Posted by AL84
You can refuse anyone for any reason in your own business.
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