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The letter was a major political gaffe, it told the world that the GOP hates Obama more than a nuclear Iran. There were some Republicans, who to their credit, refused to sign this misguided letter.
It told the world that Obama is a weak president who does not have the support of the elected Congress and the people. A strong president would not be faced with this.
It was a bitchslap for Obama. Nothing more, nothing less.
I also find it very odd that the republicans are so opposed to ANY deal with Iran. Especially when you consider many of them hold Reagan in such high regards, when he cut a very famous deal with the Iranians...
Reagan held the Presidency before the neocons rose to prominence and took over
the Republican party. These neocons come from Trotskyite backgrounds. If
don't believe me on that, try reading the Judas Goats by Michael Collins Piper.
Ronald Reagan wouldn't have been supported by the PNAC/AIPAC lobby today.
When the Iraq/Iran War broke out between them as a direct concurrence with
the Islamic Revolution, Reagan did not pick sides. He was not responsible for
Iran-Contra which really was overblown to begin with. Many Americans agreed
that funneling support the Contras in Nicaragua was the right thing to do.
Reagan was a true leader who brought back the hostages from Iran in a
peaceful manner without hastily resorting to military action that would only
risk the lives of the hostages and kill others as collateral damage.
Concerning the topic of this thread, which is an important one, I would
suggest it is worth your time to read this article today by Justin Raimondo.
It's ok to admit that you might learn something. Rand Paul
The letter was a major political gaffe, it told the world that the GOP hates Obama more than a nuclear Iran. There were some Republicans, who to their credit, refused to sign this misguided letter.
Hyperbole.
It was nothing more than a "working as intended" reminder of the legislative check on executive power, and it was meant as much for the American people and global community as it was for Iran and President Obama.
No matter how much either party thinks their guy is a king, we have three co-equal branches of government. In regard to treaties with other nations, no treaty is binding without the senior legislative chamber's agreement, which is a constitutional way of saying the federal government needs the majority of the states (the Senate is the chamber that represents the states) to agree to a treaty with another nation, given how that treaty can and will affect the states themselves. Welcome to a federalist constitutional republic.
No President is a king. They cannot broker any deal they want with other countries all on their own. They simply must have the agreement of the states as expressed via the US Senate. Obama is rather unprecedented in his disregard for the check and balance system, particularly when it holds him back from doing whatever he wants, but he is bound by the same US Constitution as anyone else in federal office, whether he likes it or not, and the whole world got a reminder of that, and quite constitutionally.
Every now and again, people need reminded that the US is not a monarchy.
It was nothing more than a "working as intended" reminder of the legislative check on executive power, and it was meant as much for the American people and global community as it was for Iran and President Obama.
No matter how much either party thinks their guy is a king, we have three co-equal branches of government. In regard to treaties with other nations, no treaty is binding without the senior legislative chamber's agreement, which is a constitutional way of saying the federal government needs the majority of the states (the Senate is the chamber that represents the states) to agree to a treaty with another nation, given how that treaty can and will affect the states themselves. Welcome to a federalist constitutional republic.
No President is a king. They cannot broker any deal they want with other countries all on their own. They simply must have the agreement of the states as expressed via the US Senate. Obama is rather unprecedented in his disregard for the check and balance system, particularly when it holds him back from doing whatever he wants, but he is bound by the same US Constitution as anyone else in federal office, whether he likes it or not, and the whole world got a reminder of that, and quite constitutionally.
Every now and again, people need reminded that the US is not a monarchy.
Republicans wouldn't look so stupid if there was even a rough draft of an agreement. The repub's don't want any agreement at all. They only want what BIBI wants.
More crap like the NRA said about them stopping Hillary and the UN Arms Treaty. There was no treaty to stop and lies were told to try and get more political gain.
It told the world that Obama is a weak president who does not have the support of the elected Congress and the people.
Actually the Congress is despised by the people. Only the very fringe people still claims to support them. The sad part is that they couldn't care less, which is why I brought up the "diabolical pride" which drips from actions like this.
Republicans wouldn't look so stupid if there was even a rough draft of an agreement. The repub's don't want any agreement at all. They only want what BIBI wants.
More crap like the NRA said about them stopping Hillary and the UN Arms Treaty. There was no treaty to stop and lies were told to try and get more political gain.
Obama isn't a king. Sorry that bums you out, but he isn't.
You'll be happy about this when a Republican is in the White House, and there will be one eventually. The US President is not a monarch, not the entire government on his own, and the Legislature is co-equal with the Executive.
Republicans wouldn't look so stupid if there was even a rough draft of an agreement. The repub's don't want any agreement at all. They only want what BIBI wants.
This is exactly the point. There is nothing for the president to bring to Congress at this point because the U.S. and our allies are in still in talks right now.
Demanding to be shown something that doesn't exist yet shows their extreme ignorance about what negotiations involve. Or it shows that they don't give a damn about anything but trying to embarrass and undermine the president. Or it shows that they don't want any agreement to ever be reached because it will interfere with their plans to take the U.S. into war with Iran alongside Israel.
Most likely all of the above are the truth. Which shows that this group of Republicans are one of the biggest threat America faces at the moment.
[quote=HeyJude514;38777074]This is exactly the point. There is nothing for the president to bring to Congress at this point because the U.S. and our allies are in still in talks right now.
Demanding to be shown something that doesn't exist yet shows their extreme ignorance about what negotiations involve. Or it shows that they don't give a damn about anything but trying to embarrass and undermine the president. Or it shows that they don't want any agreement to ever be reached because it will interfere with their plans to take the U.S. into war with Iran alongside Israel.
Most likely all of the above are the truth. Which shows that this group of Republicans are one of the biggest threat America faces at the moment.[/QUOTE
I recall when a bunch of Senators wrote a letter to a private citizen in an attempt to control his 1st Amendment rights. I believe BO signed it.
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