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I guess we underestimated the degree which the school wants to make an example of these guys. However most agree if they decide to sue they'll have an excellent case.
I guess we underestimated the degree which the school wants to make an example of these guys. However most agree if they decide to sue they'll have an excellent case.
Indeed, they will. Boren acted hastily and stupidly.
If this heads to court the school will say the song about lynching is a violent threat. The problem is that the kids were serediptously recorded. The intent to incite is simply not there. In fact if you want to be technical the person that recorded and sent it to social media sites is the once that incited people.
On a personal basis, yes. But neither Shabazz nor the idiotic frat boys made personal threats.
At least we have crossed the hurdle that threats are not protected speech. If you simply want to argue that you don't think this reaches the threshold of actions I'll say its certainly an arguable point.
This is a problem too. People on the internet want to hold people accountable for the worst thing they ever did. You people think this should define this person for the rest of his/her life.
Not for life.. but for the here in now. You do something stupid and get caught, there are consequences. Next week it will be someone else or something else because the world keeps spinning even though it probably feels like it stopped just for these kids.
They will be fine in the long run. They aren't going to jail, they aren't on death row.. they just got expelled from 1 University. There are a lot more schools than OU.
Come on man lol at least admit you boxed yourself into a corner here. You first said the university can't take legal action against, which the university didn't. Now your saying *that* doesn't matter and the university at it's discretion can't expel for code of conduct. They had all the free speech they wanted - no one is disputing that.
Like I said, conduct your own experiment in the longitude and latitude of free speech and I'll be the first to admit you're right.
Okay fine, one of the two students expelled has admitted to under age drinking and serving alcohol to other minors on campus prior to the bus ride. Which *is* against the law, a code of conduct violation and probably one or two other things. Should they be expelled for that?
When all is said and done, this will be the only reason the university will (need to) cite as their rationale for expulsion.
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