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Old 03-11-2015, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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violated?

Are they in jail?

You guys really need to brush up on this Free Speech thing...

No, you do. There are many ways to punish people for exercising their rights without jailing them.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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The answer is the university can get away with it as long as no one takes them to court. I suspect the students will simply find another college.
It appears that they have been given some good common sense advice--apologize and then get out of the public eye and try to minimize the damage of their idiotic behavior, and hope it doesn't follow them for the rest of their lives. Which won't be easy in this digital age, where everything you do follows you forever.

But fighting their expulsion and/or suing the university will only keep them in the public eye for that much longer, and make certain that people who hadn't heard about it before will be exposed to it then. Accompanied by a YouTube video which would be aired again and again and again during the course of the trial.

The best these guys can hope for is to slink away quietly and do good things going forward to overshadow their bad behavior here.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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It appears that they have been given some good common sense advice--apologize and then get out of the public eye and try to minimize the damage of their idiotic behavior, and hope it doesn't follow them for the rest of their lives. Which won't be easy in this digital age, where everything you do follows you forever.

But fighting their expulsion and/or suing the university will only keep them in the public eye for that much longer, and make certain that people who hadn't heard about it before will be exposed to it then. Accompanied by a YouTube video which would be aired again and again and again during the course of the trial.

The best these guys can hope for is to slink away quietly and do good things going forward to overshadow their bad behavior here.
I doubt they'll take this to court, for those very reasons.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:56 PM
FBJ
 
Location: Tall Building down by the river
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So when the media shows this video on the news, are we as blacks supposed to be upset and ruin the rest of our day? Because after I watched the video I carried on with my day so I didn't care anything about it.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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yeah, that's linked to in post #758.
Exactly: Why expelled Oklahoma frat boys would have an ‘excellent chance’ in court - The Washington Post

Boren acted too hastily, and screwed up. Tidy sum for the taking for racist the frat boys.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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But in this case they were not expelled. They voluntarily withdrew.
That's not what Boren announced. Link to expulsion letter, here:

OU President David Boren Expels 2 Students Related To Racist Vid - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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no amount of evidence that they were expelled is going to convince this one, I already tried the letter.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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Wrong. They withdrew.

"I am deeply sorry for what I did Saturday night," Rice said in the statement. "It was wrong and reckless. I made a horrible mistake by joining into the singing and encouraging others to do the same. On Monday, I withdrew from the University and sadly, at this moment our family is not able to be in our home because of threatening calls as well as frightening talk on social media."
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:08 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Where in the Constitution does it prevent a university from punishing a student for denigrating or humiliating other students?
First Amendment. Free speech. Read it.

UC Berkeley is a hotbed of sometimes very denigrating protests. Their students aren't expelled for protesting in such a manner.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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Wrong. They withdrew.
No. Boren published the expulsion letter.
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