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Old 03-21-2015, 05:10 PM
 
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Those two were lost, certainly not me. Same thing would NEVER happen to me, Guaranteed.
While excusing government goons giving a beating to anyone saying a cross word to them. You are a good citizen.
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Those two were lost, certainly not me. Same thing would NEVER happen to me, Guaranteed.
Why? because you would be 'good citizen' and tell that wannabe everything about you, regardless if it was any of his business.
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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While excusing government goons giving a beating to anyone saying a cross word to them. You are a good citizen.
well, good is a subjective word.

I am not trying to take sides here, the cops don't sign my pay check, but it is what it is.


well, The threshold for "reasonable suspicion," on the other hand, is not as stringent as that which is required to establish probable cause. It is more than simply a "hunch" but does not necessarily involve indisputable evidence of a crime. For example, a motorist who is swerving from lane to lane may be drunk or just a bad driver, but this gives an officer reasonable suspicion to investigate further.

If you are still wondering, "When can the police search search your car?" or for help with unlawful search and seizure defense, contact a criminal defense attorney.

- See more at: When Can the Police Search Your Car? - FindLaw'
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:31 PM
 
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Did this family get profiled and treated differently because of their looks?
No. The driver was treated differently because he wanted to be a special snowflake.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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So why are these folks driving around filming themselves with an in car video camera?

Trying to get on Fox News or file a lawsuit
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:07 PM
 
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So why are these folks driving around filming themselves with an in car video camera?

So they could drum up a lawsuit over nothing. They were doing everything they could to create a situation where the BP would drag the guy out of the car. Unfortunately for them, they created probable cause for the search and just had a really bad afternoon instead. They are idiots.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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why does the driver have a dash cam unless he's trying to start something.
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Old 03-21-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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No. The driver was treated differently because he wanted to be a special snowflake.
What are you talking about? The dude looked like a dirt bag, that WILL invite a closer look from the cops.
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Old 03-21-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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I know when the police can search me or my property, and contrary to what you believe a "nasty attitude" never constitutes probable cause nor reasonable suspicion.

You did change your words since at first you said he should have answered. Then you agreed he was not required to.
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All he had to do is to answer the officer's question. Then he didn't have to be "assaulted".
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Both drivers and passengers have the right to remain silent
Those two statements are not incompatible. He did not say the driver was legally obligated to answer the officer's question, just that he could have forestalled the whole situation has he done so.

If you truly know when the police can and can not search you then you'd know that as soon as he started not following instructions, like to pull out of the lane and pull over, the police have a right to "detain" him and in detaining him they have a right to search him and the area under his immediate control for possible weapons.

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Old 03-21-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Where am I going? I drive back and forth across the border because I am bored, or I like driving around the nastiest water on the planet.
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