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Old 03-22-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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This is interesting too:

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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There is NO justification for allowing Iran keep even one centrifuge, let alone 6,000.
well what r u gonna do about it ? they are a signer of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
our own intelligence and israeli intelligence says they are not making a bomb. they
have a sovereign right to peaceful nuclear energy and medical isotopes. unlike israel,
who never signed the treaty and has up to 400 warheads. and unlike the us which
has violated the treaty and used nukes in fallujah. yes, nukes in fallujah which have
resulted in thousands of birth defects.
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:36 PM
 
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The Qur’an posits an enormous qualitative distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims that is hard to miss.

Believers are loved by God, whereas infidels are hated to the extent that they are tortured for eternity (3:32, 4:56) merely for not believing.

Muslims are told not to take unbelievers as friends (3:28) and to shun them (3:118).

Those outside the circle are called “helpers of evil” (25:55), “wicked” (4:160), “fond of lies” (5:42) and compared to the worst of animals (8:55, 7:176, 7:179).

Muslims are told to be merciful to each other, but ruthless to those outside of the faith (48:29).

Violence is also sanctioned against those who are obstinate against Islamic rule (8:12-13, 9:5).
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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well what r u gonna do about it ? they are a signer of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
our own intelligence and israeli intelligence says they are not making a bomb. they
have a sovereign right to peaceful nuclear energy and medical isotopes. unlike israel,
who never signed the treaty and has up to 400 warheads. and unlike the us which
has violated the treaty and used nukes in fallujah. yes, nukes in fallujah which have
resulted in thousands of birth defects.


Show us.
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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The Qur’an posits an enormous qualitative distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims that is hard to miss.

Believers are loved by God, whereas infidels are hated to the extent that they are tortured for eternity (3:32, 4:56) merely for not believing.

Muslims are told not to take unbelievers as friends (3:28) and to shun them (3:118).

Those outside the circle are called “helpers of evil†(25:55), “wicked†(4:160), “fond of lies†(5:42) and compared to the worst of animals (8:55, 7:176, 7:179).

Muslims are told to be merciful to each other, but ruthless to those outside of the faith (48:29).

Violence is also sanctioned against those who are obstinate against Islamic rule (8:12-13, 9:5).
When did you become such an expert on the qu'ran is it perhaps when you decided like the rest of the right wingers to bow to bibi and want to go and "bomb,bomb,bomb,bomb iran" ??
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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When did you become such an expert on the qu'ran is it perhaps when you decided like the rest of the right wingers to bow to bibi and want to go and "bomb,bomb,bomb,bomb iran" ??

uh, Are you attacking me because I dare research to learn the mindset and beliefs of the leaders that Obama is trying to "negotiate" with. You got a problem with that? Really? Would you rather I just blindly believe Obama and the Democrats and stay ignorant to the world?


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The Qur’an posits an enormous qualitative distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims that is hard to miss.

Believers are loved by God, whereas infidels are hated to the extent that they are tortured for eternity (3:32, 4:56) merely for not believing.

Muslims are told not to take unbelievers as friends (3:28) and to shun them (3:118).

Those outside the circle are called “helpers of evil” (25:55), “wicked” (4:160), “fond of lies” (5:42) and compared to the worst of animals (8:55, 7:176, 7:179).

Muslims are told to be merciful to each other, but ruthless to those outside of the faith (48:29).

Violence is also sanctioned against those who are obstinate against Islamic rule (8:12-13, 9:5).
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Aside from the absolutely riveting theological quotes on this thread it looks like a deal may be possible in spite of the right wing factions from both countries, Iran is starting to sound more reasonable but there is still disagreement in several areas.

No one has yet pointed out specifically why this would be a bad deal.
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:06 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Tehran does not deserve any deal

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...there are major dangers that come with a deal that takes no account of Iran’s wider interference in the Arab world.
Tehran does not deserve any deal | Arab News
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Under pressure from Senate Democrats, of course. Whatever happens, Congress still needs to vote on this "deal," which is really no deal at all for America. This is a foolish move by Obama, and everybody knows it. It virtually guarantees Iran will have a nuclear bomb in a very short time; not what anybody (but Obama) wants. There is NO justification for allowing Iran keep even one centrifuge, let alone 6,000.
Interesting to see folks who talk about "Letting" other Foreign Nations do or not do something. ANd exactly how do you plan to stop them? Last time I checked, we did not have a World Ruler Nation anywhere.
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Great opinion pieve and he nails it again. This is what happens when you put a high schooler in the White House. I don't care what anyone says, this guy is clueless and a terrorist sympathizer.

Obama's Mideast 'free fall' - Michael Crowley - POLITICO
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