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Old 03-28-2015, 03:43 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Put me down for a couple hundred acres. I'll open a first class gun range!
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Old 03-28-2015, 05:10 PM
 
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Put me down for a couple hundred acres. I'll open a first class gun range!
Good luck with that in the southwest, where the whole outdoors is one big gun range.
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Old 03-28-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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You're just flat wrong. Big business interests have been pushing for years to be allowed to take our public lands to plunder and destroy them. And there are people in congress more than happy to oblige. It's not just an issue either of what lands are best for hunters or anglers either. It's about having the freedom to see, hike, explore and not have wall to wall development everywhere or a fence and gate up because someone claims it as private property. It's something that has always made this country different and more free.

Just because you don't know what you're looking at doesn't make a piece of land less important.
Oh just stop the fear mongering.

Much of the federal lands currently owned by the federal government were protected lands before they were taken over, from the states..

Other land was preserved by private owners who then deeded it to the federal government to conserve.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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make no mistake, true Statesmen enacted the parks acts and acquired these lands
for our national heritage - to be owned and enjoyed by all Americans.. and all our
children into the future. (and for conservation reasons).

with everywhere else unprotected and ravaged by the suburban sprawl and
road-building across all lands, there is little left already.

any politician who advocates the sale of protected Federal Lands for private
ownership is whoring for the elite. there are small groups of men with so
much money they are running out of things to do with the money. one thing
they cannot do yet is purchase publicly owned land. but they want it, because
their lust for acquisition is insatiable.

i urge everyone to automatically write-off ANY politician who advocates the
sale and divestiture of our national heritage to greedy individuals. an action
such as this says more about them and their beliefs than any mere words
coming out of their lying mouths.

this isn't about tree-hugging. sportsmen, hikers, recreational tourists,
campers, anyone who enjoys the use of our natural heritage must help stop this
potential, permanent loss of unique lands which YOU as an American
have an equal right to enjoy from ever taking place.

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Old 03-28-2015, 07:27 PM
 
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I personally write off anyone who assumes the only option is federal government ownership, or complete destruction.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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I would bet most Native Americans in the 326 tribal lands are laughing their @@@@@ off at the stupidity of Republicans who want to sell off our heritage. If Republicans have their way you will have to drive onto a rural part of a reservation to see what America used to be like. One of my favorite drives is the Yakama Nation in Washington where there is absolutely nothing for miles.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:34 PM
 
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I personally write off anyone who assumes the only option is federal government ownership, or complete destruction.
then you have no understanding about what PUBLIC ownership means.
it means that ALL have an equal right and that would end with private
ownership. why do you think it's the hunters and fishermen who are
so against it ?
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Old 03-28-2015, 08:10 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Oh just stop the fear mongering.

Much of the federal lands currently owned by the federal government were protected lands before they were taken over, from the states..

Other land was preserved by private owners who then deeded it to the federal government to conserve.
You have it backwards. The western states' lands were owned by the federal government, what the states got as state or private land is/was what the feds gave or sold during settlement. Only the original eastern states were as you describe.
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Old 03-29-2015, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I think the Federal government should be buying MORE land to protect it from the ruinous incursion of commerce. We pay the National Park Service an nominal fee to visit a National Park. If Yosemite were owned by Disney visitors would be charged like it was Disneyland and have to pay hundreds of dollars a day. That would effectively limit public access to the prosperous and discriminate against everyone else.

I have heard the Valle Vidal in New Mexico is a stunningly beautiful place. I will never experience it because it is a privately owned ranch. This place should be owned by the Federal Government so all of us can enjoy it.
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I think the Federal government should be buying MORE land to protect it from the ruinous incursion of commerce. We pay the National Park Service an nominal fee to visit a National Park. If Yosemite were owned by Disney visitors would be charged like it was Disneyland and have to pay hundreds of dollars a day. That would effectively limit public access to the prosperous and discriminate against everyone else.

I have heard the Valle Vidal in New Mexico is a stunningly beautiful place. I will never experience it because it is a privately owned ranch. This place should be owned by the Federal Government so all of us can enjoy it.
Valle Vidal has been part of the Carson National Forest since 1982.
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