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Old 04-09-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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Clinton's policy specifically excluded military adventurism. Also, as you well know, things Clinton said years earlier don't make lies told by the right-wing scum true. You're just desperate to pretend you weren't scared into supporting right-wing failure. Please continue to show how much you're into personal responsibility and personal accountability by pretending Republicans aren't responsible for their constant failure.
He bombed Iraq (more than once) and allowed Biden to talk him into bombing Kosovo.

No none of it was as bad as a failing 12 year war.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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I'll explain this again. Statements made five years earlier, whether they be true or false, do not make the lies Republicans told in order to frighten you into supporting them five years later true. This will be the case no matter how many times you try to blame others for the failings of right wing scum who invade countries under false pretenses and have people kidnaped and tortured.
I'll explain this one more time. Liberals tend to be hyper-partisans that will never hold Democrats accountable for anything.

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Bush apologists don't blame Republicans for making bad decisions, they just blame others for letting him.
The Bush apologists are just like the Democrat apologists, but seem to me fewer in numbers.

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Democrats aren't my leaders. I still regard Republicans as worthless. But I'm amused at your attempts to pretend the right-wing torture supporters aren't trying to pretend they were fooled by the scum Bush in this thread.
Conservative, "Bush didn't lie, he made a mistake"

Liberal, "You see, there you go again. You keep supporting killing and torture and keep trying to say the war was justified and that Iraq perpetrated 911."

Conservative, "No, all I said was that Bush believed the same thing that Bill Clinton and other Democrats believed."

Liberal, "They did not."

Conservative, "I can post a whole big list of their quotes."

Liberal, "No, you just want oil companies to get rich on blood money."

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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
Clinton's policy specifically excluded military adventurism. Also, as you well know, things Clinton said years earlier don't make lies told by the right-wing scum true. You're just desperate to pretend you weren't scared into supporting right-wing failure. Please continue to show how much you're into personal responsibility and personal accountability by pretending Republicans aren't responsible for their constant failure.


Wow, Clinton excluded military adventurism?

Funny that he didn't share that after bombing Iraq.

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Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Let me guess, Bush forced him to attack Iraq and then lie about WMDs.

Don't you ever get embarrassed at being so completely out of touch with reality?

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He bombed Iraq (more than once) and allowed Biden to talk him into bombing Kosovo.
Are you sure they were bombs and not just comfy throw pillows?
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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"Bush didn't lie, he made a mistake"

Liberal, "You see, there you go again. You keep supporting killing and torture and keep trying to say the war was justified and that Iraq perpetrated 911."

Conservative, "No, all I said was that Bush believed the same thing that Bill Clinton and other Democrats believed."

Liberal, "They did not."

Conservative, "I can post a whole big list of their quotes."

Liberal, "No, you just want oil companies to get rich on blood money."
Uhmmm...Im probably one of the more liberal sort of folks here...and I sound like the conservative side.

I might quibble that Bush intentionally CHOSE to believe the false information over more reasonable information, but thats a quibble.

Did we go to war based on a lie? Absolutely. Was it Bush's lie? Nope.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Uhmmm...Im probably one of the more liberal sort of folks here...and I sound like the conservative side.

I might quibble that Bush intentionally CHOSE to believe the false information over more reasonable information, but thats a quibble.

Did we go to war based on a lie? Absolutely. Was it Bush's lie? Nope.
No, we did not go to war based on a lie. It was info that was not accurate. That is not a lie. Actually, in some ways it was accurate because Saddam had months to move any WMD. As many know, it's almost for sure some ended up in Libya.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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It was Clinton's lie.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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No, we did not go to war based on a lie. It was info that was not accurate. That is not a lie. Actually, in some ways it was accurate because Saddam had months to move any WMD. As many know, it's almost for sure some ended up in Libya.
It was an answer to a.question we didn't need to ask.

Mind your own business and you don't get lies or incorrect answers.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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It was Clinton's lie.
Nope. Clinton was told by the intelligence community that Iraq had WMD's. He believed it to be true as well. If he believed it, he was not lying.

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It was an answer to a.question we didn't need to ask.

Mind your own business and you don't get lies or incorrect answers.
No argument there.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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No, we did not go to war based on a lie. It was info that was not accurate. That is not a lie. Actually, in some ways it was accurate because Saddam had months to move any WMD. As many know, it's almost for sure some ended up in Libya.
Sorry but no. The information provided about the yellowcake was made up. I can't even recall the guys name at the moment. He was a paid informant looking to score more cash.
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Old 04-09-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Sorry but no. The information provided about the yellowcake was made up. I can't even recall the guys name at the moment. He was a paid informant looking to score more cash.
Curveball?
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Old 04-09-2015, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Sorry but no. The information provided about the yellowcake was made up. I can't even recall the guys name at the moment. He was a paid informant looking to score more cash.
I was not referring to yellowcake.
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