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Old 04-20-2015, 07:37 AM
 
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Do you think americans are competing for jobs like....lawn mowing, painting, junk removal, house cleaning and so on. It's not like they are taking high paying jobs away.
Of course they are! It's not just law mowing anyway. It's the whole commercial landscaping and construction businesses that has been taken over by illegal aliens. Painting and house cleaning? Since when haven't Americans been willing to do those jobs? Those jobs use to pay a fair wage and Americans without a college education have always done those jobs. Some of them are entry level jobs for our American youth. We have always had a large blue-collared workforce in this country Who do you think you are kidding?

 
Old 04-20-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Perhaps it is the tax and administrative burdens of government that is the target of hatred.

http://www.census.gov/govs/statetax/05staxrank.html
US Per Capita Government Spending for 2015 - Charts
2012 GDP: $15.6 T, U.S. population : 314.1 M, Per Capita : $49665.71

★ Federal spending, per capita : $12,083.0 (percentage of GDP: 24%)
★ State spending, per capita : $ 4,454.10 (percentage of GDP: 9%)
★ Local spending, per capita : $ 5,308.4 (percentage of GDP: 11%)

Summed up, combined government spending takes (approx) 44% of the GDP.

And that means the taxpayers - employers AND employees - have to pass that cost on to their customers - YOU and ME.

So whether you're a "Taker" or a "Taken" - the system is fouled up beyond repair.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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What party is Barack Obama, the man who just flooded the labor market with illegal aliens, a member of? A higher percentage of Republicans have a 4 year degree than Democrats.
Illegal immigration became a tidal wave in the 80's and peaked in 2006 with the housing bubble. Doing nothing for 30 years is not an accident. It has not mattered who sat the oval, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush2 or Obama. It has not mattered which party held the majority. 30+ years of doing nothing is defacto amnesty.

Only 4 states have mandated e- verify for all employees. No fence is high enough nor troops deep enough to mKe a dent in illegal immigration so long as employers continue to hire undocumented workers
 
Old 04-20-2015, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Then Republicans in Congress should ban the minimum wage to see how close Americans are willing to work at the level of third world wages in order to compete with those workers.
The U.S. should drop the minimum wage while removing the 18 million illegals and then employers would have to pay higher wages to get people to do work they didn't enjoy. They'd also have to remove incentives to NOT work as well.
 
Old 04-21-2015, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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They're always the ones harping about working hard and pulling your own weight and not being a drain, so why do they hate people who work and want them to have fewer rights? It's not even just public sector workers, they seem to think all workers have it too good. Doesn't make any sense to me.
It's the same kind of mindless hatred exploited by the Nazis. Pick a group and pump out the hate propaganda. If you are wealthy and greedy, use the power of television to whip up hatred of liberals, kind people, the empathetic, immigrants, minorities, etc. so you can keep more of your money and redistribute up, not down. Look at how effective it has been at getting suckers to vote against themselves.
 
Old 04-21-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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It's the same kind of mindless hatred exploited by the Nazis. Pick a group and pump out the hate propaganda. If you are wealthy and greedy, use the power of television to whip up hatred of liberals, kind people, the empathetic, immigrants, minorities, etc. so you can keep more of your money and redistribute up, not down. Look at how effective it has been at getting suckers to vote against themselves.
Republicans don't hate the American worker the Democrats do. They are the ones wanting to help the wealthy and greedy by desiring amnesty for millions of illegal aliens that are low wage earners competing against Americans for jobs. Who hates "immigrants" and minorities? I don't know of any conservatives that hate legal immigrants. Their objection is to illegal aliens. Learn to know the difference! It's also a myth that conservatives hate minorities. They want them to have jobs and equal opportunities rather than living off welfare.
 
Old 04-21-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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More like debt......if you can't pay for it, who should?

Debt is relative. United States has the one of the best borrowing rate in the entire world and a lot of progress are financed with debt and we make that money back and then some.

But most Republicans really don't want to know about things like that. They just want to think "debt" = "bad". Keep it simple so they can understand, even if it's stupid.

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Old 04-21-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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illegals hurt the low income, low education and low skills Americans.
According to the CBO, illegal immigration is a major influence on the black unemployment rate being higher than the white unemployment rate.

But of course liberals pander to the Hispanic vote by supporting immigration reform, then pander to the black vote by blaming that unemployment difference on racist Republicans. So the Democrats pit two of their constituencies against each other, and yet come out seeming like they are supporting both of them.

And the liberals, including those on this very thread, fall for it like idiots.
 
Old 04-21-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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They're always the ones harping about working hard and pulling your own weight and not being a drain, so why do they hate people who work and want them to have fewer rights? It's not even just public sector workers, they seem to think all workers have it too good. Doesn't make any sense to me.
Huh????
 
Old 04-21-2015, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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My company has the right to fire me for any reason (except, you know). I have the right to quit for any reason (no exceptions).

Why do Democrats keep expanding the number of low skilled workers?
As opposed to what? Putting them all on welfare?
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