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Many without insurance dont pay, or did you forget the justification for ACA?
They have no need to try to reduce it, the reimbursement rates are set by zip code, which even the government follows.
If you dont think the insurance company should pay less than the billed amount, then the government shouldnt either. One could argue them not paying "their fair share", is what causes the cash payers to get the $500 bills for a pill.
Really? this is your argument back?
Just give it up. The rest of the world does this cheaper then we do, and with better results in general.
You can cherry pick some specialty, but the WHO data is damning. Refusing to recognize this is refusing to recognize reality.
I'm not going to argue that, but people will get in heartfelt debates pushing the benefits of systems in foreign countries that they know absolutely nothing about. It's very peculiar.
No more peculiar than people using derogatory comparisons to "socialized", "single-payer" or "universal" about which they know nothing beyond whatever indoctrination they've gotten for decades from big pharma and insurance companies.
We currently have a single-payer system for the elderly: I believe all people aged 65 and older are eligible. I believe Medicare/Medicaid spends around $900 billion a year, if I am not mistaken, for 45 million people (elderly and disabled). Curious how much the number balloons when 300 million people are thrown on it.
The same way it affords its stupid, bloated military.
The Federal government issues an order to the bank to increase the value in the accounts of our armed forces personnel. Poof!
No more peculiar than people using derogatory comparisons to "socialized", "single-payer" or "universal" about which they know nothing beyond whatever indoctrination they've gotten for decades from big pharma and insurance companies.
So people are in favor of a system they don't know much about rather than a system they don't know much about.
lol. The perfect bit of web fodder.
I guess it's no more silly than thinking that a professional economist can predict the future.
Ohhh yet another thread about how a Monetarily Sovereign government has to adhere to imaginary financial limitations that do not exist. It's like choosing not to eat more than one meal per day in a supermarket with unlimited daily shipments of food.
People who pay the stated amount on the bill are the same ones who pay msrp for a car.
You can get half off an emergency room visit just by asking.
And in times of illness or emergency those other countries citizens are not burdened with asking. Ever stop to consider those who cannot ask due to their suffering from illness; what about them?
A stupid system would be one described as knowingly over-billing on the premise that those who don't ask get shafted but those who do will get some relief. ONLY IN AMERICA.
But then you could fall back on the stats from multiple authoritative sources that do describe the differences, and those say what again?
Probably that country 'X' has better results with less money (ignoring that the population is different, let's assume that there's no effect from dissimilar demographics, wealth, etc.).
Of course, rather than copying country 'X's system, which might make some sense as these systems have evolved for decades (or 100+ years in some cases), the US argues about inventing something from whole cloth. The whole cloth solution will be written by those with political horsepower, will have unknown consequences, and cost an unknown amount. Perfect.
And in times of illness or emergency those other countries citizens are not burdened with asking. Ever stop to consider those who cannot ask due to their suffering from illness; what about them?
A stupid system would be one described as knowingly over-billing on the premise that those who don't ask get shafted but those who do will get some relief. ONLY IN AMERICA.
If they are not able to ask for a deduction I doubt they will be able to make any payments.
The system of negotiating prices is actually pretty common world wide. It is actually less common in American compared to the rest of the world.
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