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Old 04-22-2015, 10:56 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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It has everything to do with the fact that Obama is completely untrustworthy. He's a pathological liar, with a long track record for all to see. He's the one that's trying to pitch this as a great idea, and Elizabeth Warren knows that he's a liar.


So all the Republicans who like TPP are liars too ?????
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Old 04-22-2015, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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They gutted America's manufacturing sector with NAFTA. America is in trouble if we don't find more more 3rd world nations to exploit. China is getting expensive, and will only get more expensive. Plus, the world is in a deflationary funk... Hence we have, TPP, and the express lane known as "fasttrack". America has never been so vulnerable.

Of course, our government is inherently incompetence, so any action taken will only serve to make the situation worse. TPP would be, more than likely, harmful for the country long term, but great for equities short term... The results that most in control seem to favor.
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Old 04-22-2015, 11:45 PM
 
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I love the cognitive dissonance of the folks on the right who want to both criticize Obama over it....while also trying to somehow justify all of their Republican representatives also being for it.

Thanks Obama!

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Wyden, one of the leaders of the left wing of the Democratic Party in the Senate, flip flopped on the TPP. So I can understand the disappointment of many of his supporters.
You have no idea. People have picketed his house, and his wifes condo. His facebook page is......insane at the moment. I'd give good odds of him being primaried, and losing.
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Old 04-23-2015, 12:03 AM
 
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Warren is right on this issue.

OBama like Bush and Bush like Clinton and Clinton like Bush Senior and like Regan

are all instrument of large corporations.

The only Americans that will benefit from this are big corporations.
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Old 04-23-2015, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Amazing how some of the same people who wish to combat global warming stating 97% of climate scientists believe man is responsible ignore the fact that 97+% of economists support liberalized trade.

Ricardo is still right.
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Old 04-23-2015, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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Amazing how some of the same people who wish to combat global warming stating 97% of climate scientists believe man is responsible ignore the fact that 97+% of economists support liberalized trade.

Ricardo is still right.
That is not the same as 97% of them supporting this policy.

Since few of them have read it, I'm guessing 0% support it unless they wrote it.
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Old 04-23-2015, 04:38 AM
 
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So all the Republicans who like TPP are liars too ?????
Republicans don't go around campaigning for the "working class". We all know establishment republicans are for free trade.

Democrats are the ones who are suppose to be protecting the American worker. At least that's what they tell us anyway.

But the TpP has some nice immigration parts that seems nice. That 51 million immigrants these last eight years? That ain't nothing. Vote$
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Old 04-23-2015, 05:32 AM
 
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This has nothing to do with trust of President Obama,because there are plenty of Republicans who support this. It has to do with a set of ideals.
A set of ideas the president holds and he is the president. This is indeed her knocking the president.
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Old 04-23-2015, 05:34 AM
 
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So all the Republicans who like TPP are liars too ?????
It would depend but for most of them it doesn't go against everything they claim to be.
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Old 04-23-2015, 05:55 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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That came from it happening not from "righties".

The Right jumped on it yes but did not originate it.
Barbara Walters commented on this subject'

"“We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah."
He has a large group of followers that act like he's the messiah. They don't need to actually say the word when they behave as members of his cult.
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